Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms Autocar spies new Mog!

They should have “zebra’d” the alloy chassis rather than the body. Geneva is at last something worth waiting for!

They may firm up the value, but that is unimportant unless I want to sell.

Do I?
Don't know yet

I will try one before making any decisions:
I know what the engine is like as I have the same BMW B58 straight 6 in the M140, .
It has a couple of advantages over Plus 8: peak torque from low revs and instant throttle response.

Power: 250 kW (335 hp) at 5,500–6,500 rpm
Torque: 450 N⋅m (332 lb⋅ft) at 1,380–5,200 rpm

Assuming it has the same 8 speed gearbox as the M140 and the new chassis is as stiff as Aero platform, it could well be a better drive.

The M140 weighs 1500kg, it is the sort of car that demands some driver skill: it has a lively back end and even with traction control it is easy to lose traction with a heavy right foot. I'm assuming the Mog will have better developed suspension than the 1 series but no traction control and will be lighter than the M140.
So like the +8 it will be "interesting"

The BIG question is the name!
With a turbo Straight 6 I go for one of the following:

Roadster Turbo
Plus 6

Plus 6 is logical as it fits into +4 and +8
We shall see.

Also, will there be a "modern (Aero like) body as well?

Plus straight 6 ? Sounds slightly awkward ?

335bhp versus 378 bhp so down on power

Sound ? Er won't sound like a v8 .

But then there are no Beemer v8's that will fit.

Does the chassis need to be stiffer ?

That is funny, first came camouflage, then we saw dazzle camouflage, now anti-camouflage. As you say if it had not been dazzled up then it would have got clean away. Anyway good for Morgan, the more PR and coverage the better.

Well I only hope that the slight delay in moving forwards does not mean that they are just finally testing the first diesel model....ahem

I would love to have a heard a video with sound rather than the picture so we could confirm it is the new engine/chassis development mule!

Still happy with my bent-8 noise generator.

Another question might be around the rowdy exhaust option?

A V8 goes well with the boomtube dual side pipes and off beat noise. An IL6 with turbo's ? Exhalation is on one side so a single rear/side pair of exits ? Probably rear pair I guess. Also BMW have not been good at getting the volume out of their engines so Morgan can probably do well here.

do we know that it is a replace for the Plus 8? Could it not be the oft rumoured trad ie 4/4 , plus 4 with at last decent underpinnings. Exotic things like independant suspension and coil springs?

could be of real interest if it was.

We know that there is a new chassis.

We believe it will be fitted with a straight 6... Morgan say in the Autocar article it will have an engine "never before fitted in a Morgan". A straight six fits that statement.
We understand it has fully modern independent suspension at both ends.

A previous statement from MMC said it is a bit wider than the trad chassis.
From the front photo it looks to be as wide as a Plus 8, which has about 6 inches more cabin width.

I do not believe that MMC would have invested in a new alloy tub just for 1 car.
I do not believe that that chassis is for a V8.
BMW has a newer Turbo 4.4L V8, the N62, but it is getting a bit old, introduced first in 2008, but still very much in use. It produces up to 440 bhp.
I do wonder if that engine will appear in the existing Aero tub, or more logically, in a second and modified version of the new tub in a couple or 3 years.

We also know that the BMW engines are semi modular, in as much as they all have a 500cc cylinder. So it seems to me that this new car is the start of a new series, 3 cylinder 1500cc, 4 cylinder 2.0L and the 6 cylinder 3L.

But I could be wrong....!

You can't call it a Plus 6 because that name should have been given to the V6 Roadster.

Speed Six unless Bentley have it wrapped up......

But my understanding was that the Roadster would carry on for a while as it is. Maybe until the engine stock runs out.
The 4/4 is continuing for non-EU markets.....

So my logic suggests a 2.0 Plus 4. If it had around 200bhp it would be interesting.

Maybe army-specs!!!😜

Very strong marketing indeed!🙄