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by Rex_tulips - 30/07/25 07:59 PM
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In Auto-Motor-Sport they say the new frame is quite possible from Aston Martin:
this rumour has been doing the rounds: it is false. AM wanted to sell the Vanquish chassis, but the asking price was far too high: one figure I heard was "over £25m" for the IP, machinery, etc. Apparently the sale for $26m is documented in Aston Martin's accounts as part of their recent IPO. So the sale is true but as far as I know the identity of the buyer is still a mystery. Geely?
Peter,
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The traditional steel ladder framed chassis range will continue for the foreseeable future.
Graham (G4FUJ)
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The traditional steel ladder framed chassis range will continue for the foreseeable future. That makes a lot of sense.
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The traditional steel ladder framed chassis range will continue for the foreseeable future. With which engines? For sale in which markets?
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At present with the current engines.
Further ahead, I have no idea, you'd need to ask the Marketing/Sales chaps.
Graham (G4FUJ)
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The traditional steel ladder framed chassis range will continue for the foreseeable future. Not exactly sure why but I do find it reassuring that they are not moving totally away from their roots, possibly more important will be the pricing of these they should still be strikable for the enthusiasts  . Thanks Graham 
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At present with the current engines.
Further ahead, I have no idea, you'd need to ask the Marketing/Sales chaps. But that is the problem, isn't it? For example, the very good 1.6 Sigma engine in my 2015 4/4 does not comply with the latest EU emissions regulations. I believe the same applies to the Plus 4's engine. And they cannot simply drop new engines in...
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In Auto-Motor-Sport they say the new frame is quite possible from Aston Martin:
this rumour has been doing the rounds: it is false. AM wanted to sell the Vanquish chassis, but the asking price was far too high: one figure I heard was "over £25m" for the IP, machinery, etc. there is no way MMC would consider spending that on a chassis that, it can be argued, is no better than the existing Aero S5 Chassis. I am 100% sure the new chassis has been developed between Morgan and Radshape and will be unique to MMC. I'm also certain, as Peter is, that the car will not be using JLR engines. Well they won’t have been employing ex Lotus chassis engineers for the past few years if they were then going to purchase a chassis from another manufacturer!
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But that is the problem, isn't it? For example, the very good 1.6 Sigma engine in my 2015 4/4 does not comply with the latest EU emissions regulations. I believe the same applies to the Plus 4's engine. And they cannot simply drop new engines in...
I'm not sure whether the 1.6 Sigma engine does not comply or whether it has simply not been homolgated under the new rules. In any case it would not surprise me enormously to see it replaced by something of a smaller capacity with a turbo  It is, after all, the current trend and very few manufacturers now have naturally aspirated engines in their product lineup. If you were a small producer you would be looking for a supply of engines that are already homolgated under the new rules.
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I guess the Sigma engine, because it is a NA engine of traditional built, without direct injection even if it has variable cams can not meet the new requirements. The only seriously taken NA engine which passes the latest requirements is the Mazda NA sky...em...somthing technology.
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