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I'm an aluminium capsule containing 4 grams of coffee. 4 grams of coffee at 0.40 euros, make 100 euros per kg. For one ton of aluminium, four tons of residues are produced in the form of arsenic, titanium, chromium, lead, vanadium and mercury. Substances that pollute the environment. Thanks to a production of one ton of coffee per week I am the queen of the market! The coffee I use is the cheapest. When the traditional powders are roasted at 200/220° for 20 minutes for me the roasting is at 1000°C for 90 seconds. Also this to save money. But my coffee is foamy and good. Simply because I contain not only coffee but also some animal fats, and top secret additives. In addition, the machines that are used have enormous economic and environmental costs for their production and disposal. And don't forget the electricity they use. But be careful, I give you not only caffeine but also furan that you swallow with pleasure. Furan is an organic substance (intermediate product used in the chemical industry as a solvent for Resins during the production of lacquers and as an agglomerating agent in the foundry). It is volatile, lipophilic and CARCINOGENIC for the liver. As long as you are happy... (text from "Mouvement pour la Terre", translated and reworked)
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Yep, dreadful things these capsule devices. Tremendously wasteful way of producing shite coffee all in the name of 'convenience'.
We use Illy beans, a Kitchen Aid grinder and a Bialetti mocha pot.
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I don’t think that applies to all capsules
Nespresso is definitely vegan so it can’t contain animal fats
Also I send all my Nespresso capsules back to Nespresso when they deliver my order and they guarantee they are recycled 100%
Now I’m no apologist for Nespresso but I have do have faith that their claims are correct
I used to have a Pavoni lever hand press espresso maker with a large burr grinder and buy all my coffee beans roasted locally but it was taking me nearly half an hour every morning to get the family’s coffees made with a lot of mess and getting a decent crema was quite hit and miss despite years of experimenting with temperatures, pressures and grinds so I changed to Nespresso about 8 years ago and I think it’s superb
I have one at work as well
We collect all the capsules in recycling bags that they provide and they collect them every month when they deliver the coffee
I’ve read all the leaflets including a book that they publish on their processes and and it looks pretty OK to me
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And I dont really get the critism on the electricity they use
If you want a hot drink then it has to be heated somehow
I bet the electricity used by a machine to drive the pump and heat the shot for one espresso is more frugal than heating up a mocha pot on a stove
And whatever coffee is used, it’s shipped and been roasted somehow by someone
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We have been using this Quick coffee machine for 25 years, pic below. It works on the principle of a continuous flow heater. For this reason you don't need thousands of watts and you only have to wait 7 minutes when switching on from cold until you can make a nice espresso or Americano. The taste is very good for homemade coffee. We buy our beans in an Italian speciality shop. Very good Italian coffee, with the right blend of Arabica and Robusta. You see it in the pic, 15€ for one kilo. What I would like to replace is our coffee grinder. In coffee forums many people say that the grinder is the most important thing. Then comes the machine and finally the type of coffee. It's similar to turntables. The most important thing is the drive, the second most important is the tonearm. The third most important is the stylus. In our family hotel near Rimini they have a Cimbali coffee machine from 1950. There the simplest coffee of the gastronomy brand Hausbrandt tastes better than the most expensive coffee elsewhere. (Hausbrandt is the gastronomy brand of Illy from Trieste). 
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Have to agree with Stewart S on this one 
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I’ve had a couple of manual coffee machines over the years, always enjoyed playing the home Barista, but could never replicate a good coffee shop, so I now have a simple Nespresso Citiz, which i’ve had a few years, I buy my capsules from Cosco and use a simple milk frother heater. Cups I find need to be small 210ml for best result. ( could never ever drink coffee in a mug). And would never consider buying a coffee from a chain shop. Find a local coffee shop privately owned by a barista for a truely beautiful relaxing coffee. And have a max of two coffees per day.
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I think the use of electricity refers to the manufacture of the capsuals, and other processing, not to the use of electricity to heat the water. At home we use a moka but I have used an espresso machine that uses ground coffee. It was fast to heat from cold and absolutely no effort to clean. Have a look at https://www.delonghi.com/en-gb/products/coffee/coffee-makers/pump-espressoThe actual machine I used was the Dedica Style EC 685 I liked it so much that I would buy one tomorrow but we have a very small kitchen and there really isn't a place to put it.
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One of the best coffies in my lifetime. It was so good I made the foto of it.  In Anghiari at this place. 
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And have a max of two coffees per day. Easy to see you're not Italian In Milano an espresso coffee is tossed down like medicine, in Napoli taking coffee can almost be a ritual. In Sicily it is a moment of relax and one takes time to savour the coffee. Water is extremely important. If there is calcium in the water it can make the coffee bitter. The water in Napoli and Catania makes excellent coffee.
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