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The forward bias resistance of a stand alone LED is low. The forward voltage drop across them is between 1.8 and 3.3 volts depending on colour. As the voltage drop is fairly constant over a wide current range a higher applied voltage would rapidly increase it, so a series resistance is added as previously mentioned to limit same and avoid burn out. For the sake of the discussion a complete working LED as below has to be considered - sorry it's come out so big blush



They may also have a conventional diode within for reverse polarity protection or even a tiny bridge rectifier allowing them to be connected in a polarity insensitive manner. I know G4 fitting low voltage DC LED's as used on boats and caravans have such, probably many others including mains ones of course.

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Is this correct?

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Sorry no. The ballast resistor is external to the sealed LED unit consisting (as a minimum) of LED itself and current limiting resistor.

Typical indicator ballast resistor (6 ohm 50 watt) one for each LED indicator.



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Originally Posted By Richard Wood
Sorry no.

I didn't mean the diagram to represent a sealed unit, just the wiring.


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Bob,
The reason for the bypass resistor is that the indicator relay (most of them) are sensitive to the current flow.
What happens when a bulb blows? Fast flash. Why? Because the current drawn is lower than with a non-blown bulb.
LEDs draw low current, therefore with a standard relay you get a fast flash. So, to bring the current flow up to "normal" an additional resistor, wired in parallel to the LED, is required... smile


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At last, someone has explained it. The LED has a VERY high resistance when back-biased but also a high resistance when forward-biased. This resistance is generally 10 times higher than an incandescent bulb, so needs a ballast resistor to pull the current up.


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Originally Posted By BobtheTrain
At last, someone has explained it. The LED has a VERY high resistance when back-biased but also a high resistance when forward-biased . This resistance is generally 10 times higher than an incandescent bulb, so needs a ballast resistor to pull the current up.


Mainly because of the necessary current limiting series resistor.

As reverse bias will kill a bare LED unlike a conventional diode, such properties are academic. Most (but not all) LED units have additional diode protection to avoid reverse polarity damage.


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