Talk Morgan Forums Community Vehicle Talk (non-Morgan) ready to go electic?

I think for local commutes / journeys, EV's charged overnight using solar that has been stored up in a battery (like Tesla Powerwall) through the day. Using a 5KW array this would give you a range of circa 40 miles per day for no ongoing cost. As Paul says, a shift to sodium batteries will overcome a lot of the Lithium mining concerns.

For longer journeys (including trucks / coaches ) hydrogen fuel using Ammonia as a means of transmission of the hydrogen from point of creation to near point of use. Using solar to produce the hydrogen will leave production in the hot countries though, but could be clean.

As I have said before, converting classics to run on hydrogen is much nicer in my mind than converting them to electric as you would retain the noise and the gear change.

I read that Shell are working on using electricity to produce hydrogen at each petrol station, stored at the location and so avoiding shipping it.

Shell is also in the domestic energy market, selling only non carbon electricity. Solar, wind and nuclear.

Roll back 60 years and coal gas was a mix of hydrogen, carbon monoxide, methane, and ethylene. I'm certain that in the next few years natural gas will end up being replaced by a blend of hydrogen and methane.

I'll happily go electric when I can afford to.

Pity Tesla cocked up the UK pricing on the model three pushing it into the luxury VED bracket, waiting on the VW ID pricing announced next week.

I'd happily take an iPace if I could afford one.

Have a deposit down on a Uniti One for my commute.

What is wrong with the e Golf?

Well under £40k, 150 mile real world range and sensible acceleration, not Tesla silliness.

BUT... and it is a big but. According to Autocar depreciation is expected to be steep, only 25% residual value at 4 years, compared to 40% for a conventional Golf. So PCP costs will be high.

Interesting numbers Peter. They indicate that over the 24 hours and 365 days the 4kw panels average 1kw output.

I am, slowly, tending towards the same thoughts. It depends on how the fuel cell works and what materials will be required though. Good to meet (briefly) at Prescott last weekend

I might be able to afford an E version at 4+ years old, then. Bet it won't handle like the MINI though...
Not seen any info from Microlino for a while.

I guess that it is the worry about the longevity of batteries and cost of replacement that causes the depreciation. It would be my concern.

The motor industry needs a shakeup if we are to make inroads into reducing climate change. Not just in producing reliable and long lasting batteries and cars with a good range but they need to stop churning out cars to feed our voracious habits of changing our cars every two to three years.....mainly driven by PCPs. ( I say ours...not necessarily we TMers but the general public!)
Building cars is very energy intensive and a huge waste. Cars should be designed to be upgraded with new and improved battery packs etc.

Well Mr Dyson is the one to speak to then. Lots of plastic bits clicking on and off them.

As I am having my 1986 Landrover "County" SWB converted to Electric, I posted on a Landrover site requesting a rough price I should ask for my 3.5 V8 engine that has come out. I should have known better! A shitstorm of insults followed ranging from the "Ruination of a Classic" to the fact that I must be a left-wing wishy-washy leccy liberal.. No-one actually suggested a price! (It sold for £600).
It comes back from the garage in about 6 weeks and I look forward to seeing how it is. It's a "vehicle for life" used for short runs and getting in the hay once a year and other tasks around our place. We have a 4KW solar array on the barn where it lives, so I am planning on sunny day trickle charge which should cost nothing. The tax becomes free also..
It's a 30kw system from a crashed Nissan Leaf, with the engine connected to the gearbox so all 4wd H/L systems in place. Only difference is Matthew (the mechanic) tells me I'll only need to use 2 of the gears!
It's a bit of a gamble, but after 30 years of belching start-up smoke across the Devon countryside, and the fumes and noise of the Supercharged V8, I thought it was time for a change. Matthew's logic of using the Nissan engine is that they have the best parts back-up system and are less likely to make sudden changes to their systems so my system should be good for some time to come, as it's less than a year old. Rather conveniently my Landrover has V8 written on the side, so we'll put an "E" in front of the V and that should be it - EV8!
Oliver S.