Talk Morgan Forums Community Vehicle Talk (non-Morgan) Electric vehicles the answer ?

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Wow
200 miles for 50k and supply your own car!!!!!!!

If I buy another car, it will definitely be electric. When? Probably 5 to 10 years away. Our Fiat 500 has only done 6,000 miles and is 4 years old. Absolutely loads of life left in it.

I have had a 3.3kw solar array, 2kw storage battery and facility to heat my hot water and charge a Nissan Leaf since April last year. I’ve just acquired a second EV which will give us an additional car with an even bigger range, a Hyundai Kona. I look forward to my motoring costing me nothing as it has for the last twelve months, the batteries are lasting longer than anyone ever imagined. EV’s have been around commercially since around 2010/11 and yes they haven’t had to change the batteries in electric cars because the longevity is way longer than anyone anticipated.
I realise that not everyone wants them or feels they solve the issue of emissions and use of certain minerals, but the tech is advancing at a phenomenal rate and no we’re not going to use up all the worlds resources particularly as solid state batteries are developed.
Neither are we going to overload the national grid as everyone charges at different times, there are cheaper rates for overnight charging when the grid is actually paying electricity producers to switch off or divert their excess supply.
It would be like everyone who owns an ICE vehicle turning up to fill their vehicle with petrol or diesel at the filling station at the same time, it ain’t going to happen.
I’m happy to have my solar provide my motoring for nothing and contribute to my household usage of electricity.
Each to their own.

Don't forget the Tokamak

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak

Quite funny reading the resistance on here to the inevitable.

We have reserves on two electric cars the Unit One and the VW ID3.

We were up at fully charged live yesterday, seeing a mix of the available new ones and the converted.

Unless it's just a hobby conversion is very expensive to be effective in use.

A lot of the headline grabbing new EV's are although very nice very expensive new, the 2nd market is as silly as classic cars they can be expensive to. They however more in reach price wise electric cars around the corner.

Hold off on buying an existing model compliance car like a fiat 500 or vw golf they have woeful range and features.

I realise it's frightening to some, that's fine no one is forcing you to bin your internal combustion engine just yet. (some eco hippies would advocate that right now without a thought as to the effect it would have)

Do what you can where you can every little effect has a cumalitive knock on effect.

The blue paint on the iPace is to die for. Pity we can't afford one.

Had some informative conversation with various energy suppliers and car infrastructure companies to the role out of charging for vehicles, there are difficulties to be overcome in the southwest but it will happen.

In recent news Toyota have dropped their veiled attempts at not making battery vehicles (they were anyway but others seemed to think otherwise)

As Bob Dylan would say playing his wind powered mouth organ "Times are a'changin"

See what I did there?

Yes, it's all I can afford for an everyday commuter/shopping trolley...
Minimal depreciation, too!

I agree that current offerings are not for me.
The well publicised aims to remove ICE vehicles will (has) stimulated development so I think about 5 years+ will have to pass before I am truly attracted by that generations vehicles.
Current ones have clear drawbacks in cost, battery issues, range ( not the major drawback as it is manageable fairly easily). Depreciation is a bit of an unknown at present but I worry it is in excess of ICE car depreciation due to battery life making the car less than a bargain second hand. I wonder if buy-backs/ trade in deals will become the norm to keep new car production moving?

I could get a little more interest in the whole thing were someone looking into Buses, Coaches, Trucks and Tractors, you can spend hours choking behind or among these things.

I won't even mention air travel, we haven't flown out of choice for 20 years and that's not likely to change any time soon you can just get enough of some things and we did.
The Siemens prototype light aircraft is looking very promising.

I think you will find that all the European truck manufacturers are offering CNG fuelled trucks as an option which is significantly cleaner than using diesel. The UK bus market is also using CNG to fuel busses (Reading, Bristol and Nottingham in particular) often using biogas as a fuel source, so the gas is produced from waste. A range of hydrogen fuelled busses is being launched in Liverpool soon and TfL have been buying a lot of pure electric busses.

The problem is that bus and truck fleets tend to be long lasting, so a lot of the vehicle fleets can go back to Euro3 level technology. To counter this technology is now available which will convert a Euro 3,4 and 5 engine to deliver better than Euro 6 performance. Vehicle upgrade programme have been agreed between a lot of fleets and councils who are responsible for air quality of the larger cities in the UK - BUT the funding of these programs is currently seemingly held up.

Thanks for that information it's very encouraging to hear they have plans in hand to clean it all up a bit.
Liking the sound of the biogas and hydrogen that really is stepping up a gear.
It's really good to hear there are plans in place to clean up the cities as there would appear to be a large amount of evidence around now demonstrating how harmful it is for youngsters to grow up in such badly polluted areas.