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On a more humble note; I am looking at possibly changing my post retirement purchase, a 2014 Citroen DS3 Cabrio. It has been a fantastic; enough power, good handling, comfortable and quiet. I have a few ideas on what I might buy, but (to date) none have been as much fun, or as comfortable. Volvo V40? Another Citroen? Peugeot 3008? So far, I’ve ruled out most German and Japanese models, mainly because (in comparison with the DS3) the front seats are like sitting on a park bench! Any suggestions? ps decided against the Cullinan! It wouldn’t fit my garage. Citroen DS21
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Perhaps I am just getting old, but I can't think of a single good quality estate that has any form of ride quality what so ever, which just makes driving any distance (which I do a lot of) very wearing. My Daily drive is a BMW 535D Touring Xdrive, which (to me) ticks all the boxes I could possibly imagine. Comfortable, safe, QUICK, spacey enough, ideal for skiing holidays. It just does everything too effortlessly. Therefore, I need a Morgan for fun. 
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If I only had space for one car - I would keep my Range Rover over anything else as it offers less compromises for what I need a car to do than any other car I have owned.
The SUV bashing on this forum does make me laugh - do you really all drive so fast that the better handling and aerodynamics of an estate make that much difference to your every day life ?
Perhaps I am just getting old, but I can't think of a single good quality estate that has any form of ride quality what so ever, which just makes driving any distance (which I do a lot of) very wearing. SUV's? Big and unwieldy. Undeserving of the "S". Rarely much bigger on the inside. Harder to park. Compromised ride...…….is my experience of riding in a selection over the years. Some can corner with electronic aids, sure, but that adds weight and like Heathrows extension, laughable in todays world of climate change. But the SUV is the vehicle of choice without a doubt. And it excels on the school run and the supermarket visit, neither of which seem to have big enough spaces to park. As you can see, I wouldn't touch one with a long stick...…. They just don't do it for me at all. If I had to live with one car, right now it would be our Polo GTI 
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I don’t think I’m bashing SUV’s
I had three and quite enjoyed them when I had them but now much prefer my 5 series Msport Touring. I’m in to my second one in 4 years
No body roll, limpet grip, super comfy, perfectly balanced and effortless to drive plus lots of load space
I’ve driven my friends X6 quite a bit and it’s definitely more tiring driving around country lanes with just that bit of extra body movement and higher centre of gravity
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I don’t think I’m bashing SUV’s
I had three and quite enjoyed them when I had them but now much prefer my 5 series Msport Touring. I’m in to my second one in 4 years
No body roll, limpet grip, super comfy, perfectly balanced and effortless to drive plus lots of load space
I’ve driven my friends X6 quite a bit and it’s definitely more tiring driving around country lanes with just that bit of extra body movement and higher centre of gravity Gosh, how fast are you driving on those country lanes when the difference in roll-centre between a 5 Touring and an X6 is enough to make the X6 more tiring? The 'dynamics' argument against SUVs makes me laugh - unless you rag a modern SUV beyond 8/10ths (in which case the issue is behind the wheel, not the car itself) the handling is largely indistinguishable from a large estate car. Conversely, I find that the higher eyeline of an SUV allows views over hedges and through corners and is a much more relaxing (and probably safer) way to tackle the country lane access to our property. Granted, I probably don't drive any of my cars the same way as a typical X6 driver.
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I disagree Stuart
There is a marked different in driving dynamics between my 5 series and an X6 where your body is trying to compensate for the increased body roll. I’m sure you get used to it and don’t notice it after a while
But coming from my car, I notice it straight away and you can feel the roll stabilisation suspension system catching up to compensate for movement on both axis. Sometimes it feels to overcompensate giving a strange sensation mainly accelerating out of corners or on cambers. It is much better than my Merc M classes of a few years ago but it’s still way more tiring over long journeys and bendy roads
Although I don’t drive anything very sedately
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Crikey this is straight win for the estate car every time? Owners of SUV's - have to justify them. To own a estate car I don't think you have to.... 
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SUV. Two sets of golf clubs, two electric trolleys, two small suitcases, no crouching under the tailgate when loading, super-comfortable ride, and you can still see out of the back. Oh, and no-one minds if you park across two spaces.
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Honesty means doing it right, even when no one is looking!
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