Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Morgan Plus Six & Plus Four (CX-Generation Vehicles) The Plus Six 'bugs me'

Interesting that the DVLA registration site shows the two MMC registered test cars I've seen (VF19 DGZ, VF19 DGA) as having CO2 emissions of 149g/km. The latest price list quotes BMW figures of 170g/km admittedly commenting this may vary with tyre choice and other options, suggesting to me it may be higher and highlighting the difference in the two. Has anyone seen a dealers car fully registered yet?

That DNA also includes shuttle shake, questionable 'handling', the traditional suspension systems, skinny tyres, small rev happy engines and the knowledge that the trad has been built in virtually the same way as it was over 80 years ago,

I think the plus 6 is brilliant. Brilliant better quality, brilliant engineering, brilliant number of orders, brilliant move forward for the factory. To move with the times takes brilliant management vision. I applaud them.

I won't be buying one though because I fell in love with Morgan cars when they were relatively cheap. By which I mean that the 4/4 was mgb price, the plus 8 offered supercar performance for saloon car money. I remember reading the review of the first plus 8 and it talked of the driver rejecting everything about modern cars except performance. Then when I looked at the factory history I saw it was built upon the cheap, reliable 3 wheeler models which were cheap to buy, cheap to tax and cheap to run. That was what I fell in love with and that is a situation or philosophy which has completely reversed today. The cars are expensive. The 3 wheeler is not cheap to buy, tax or run. It's a complete reversal of what I saw.
But that's the modern world. It's me that's out of step not the factory. They're successfully moving on and I'm not! So I love and applaud them, but for me, I'm moving towards selling my modern 4/4 and buying a really old one. Just as a pet really.
The MMC won't miss me and I won't miss them because I shall still visit and admire the modern output. I'll still cheer them on wherever possible. But an automatic roadster just isn't for me.
Nick

The Aero 8 came along and people still bought the Trad. The Plus Six will not stop people buying the trad as it is very different. I hope it attracts a new range of buyers as the Aero8 did 18 years ago. They are not mutually exclusive or at the cost of the other from my viewpoint.

I am certain the team have considered the future as we have all speculated on several other threads.

Today
CX chassis with TurboIL6
Trad (various)
M3W

Perhaps Tomorrow
CX with Turbo IL6 to rget
CX with Turbo IL4 to reduce cost in many markets but still more expensive than Trad
CX with Turbo IL3 as above (emissions)

Trad to get Turbo IL3 as engine ranges consolidate
Trad to get Turbo IL4 as sporty model with lower emissions for other markets.

M3w to get Plus Six engine - didn't you ever see Honda 1986 CB-X 6 cyl!

I have to say that when I purchased the Plus 4 it was more the vintage look that attracted me and the fact that it had modern mechanical components. I have to say that I would have been happier not to have to grease kingpins, to have ABS, and to have more modern suspension. If you go back to look at some of my earliest posts you would see that I had always desired, and felt Morgan should build, something more modern in the underpinnings whist maintaining the classic look. The last of the V8s did exactly this but I did not want so much power. The same applies to the Plus 6.

As a concept I love it. For me the 2 litre, 4 cylinder, version which must be on the horizon will sell like hotcakes.

My only criticism of the Plus 6 is that I firmly believe Morgan should have fitted traction control. To my mind the car is too powerful for its weight not to have traction control.