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That is a sickening image, just thankful the occupants got out o.k. it's a stark reminder of the fragility of these flying machines.
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta
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That is a sickening image, just thankful the occupants got out o.k. it's a stark reminder of the fragility of these flying machines. All small, 2 seater flying machines are fragile and offer little protection.
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That is a sickening image, just thankful the occupants got out o.k. it's a stark reminder of the fragility of these flying machines. All small, 2 seater flying machines are fragile and offer little protection. You are right I think they need fitting with a couple of Martin Baker's finest 7,613 people would agree and no canopy to explode beforehand. Martin Baker
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Interesting thought, but as they weigh about 60kg each it might dull the performance somewhat.
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Have the Baker seat actuate with the horn😊
2019 M3W Sold and is now in Las Vegas enjoying the showgirls :-)
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Sad news indeed, especially if the incident was attributable to incorrectly fitted Q/R wheel and could so easily have been avoided.
Sometime before my 2016 car was built one of the three steering wheel attachments was fitted by the factory with a longer bolt to limit movement of the spring loaded removal collar. Many, including myself replaced this with shorter to allow quick removal. There are two sets of splines the wheel needs to fit over when re-attaching. It is possible to fit it located on just one although the excess movement is fairly obvious. I've experienced the wheel "1/2 on" issue, although fortunately only when backing out of the garage. It's unsettling to say the least... I recall being surprised that the Q/R adapter allowed this half-way condition. Have not looked closely at the design, but I would think all or nothing condition would be better with respect to re-fitting the wheel... When I picked up my M3W, the dealer shared a story of a customer who had the situation while driving on a highway, by way of a warning to me to ensure it was fully seated. Thankfully, that situation didn't result in an accident, but easily could have. Sad news indeed, especially if the incident was attributable to incorrectly fitted Q/R wheel and could so easily have been avoided.
Sometime before my 2016 car was built one of the three steering wheel attachments was fitted by the factory with a longer bolt to limit movement of the spring loaded removal collar. Many, including myself replaced this with shorter to allow quick removal. There are two sets of splines the wheel needs to fit over when re-attaching. It is possible to fit it located on just one although the excess movement is fairly obvious. I've experienced the wheel "1/2 on" issue, although fortunately only when backing out of the garage. It's unsettling to say the least... I recall being surprised that the Q/R adapter allowed this half-way condition. Have not looked closely at the design, but I would think all or nothing condition would be better with respect to re-fitting the wheel... When I picked up my M3W, the dealer shared a story of a customer who had the situation while driving on a highway, by way of a warning to me to ensure it was fully seated. Thankfully, that situation didn't result in an accident, but easily could have. I have experienced the same half way on issue, had a job to get the wheel back off. The splines are too fine in my opinion, they should be courser and only slide on when correctly lined up.
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"and only slide on when correctly lined up"
That's exactly how it works on the M3W.
And from experience with many types of quick release wheel hubs over the years, you really want relatively fine splines to minimize backlash and improve the control feel.
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But it isn’t the case, it will go on when not correctly lined up, not fully I admit but shouldn’t go on at all.
The quick release on my previous Cateram was courser and had no backlash.
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It is not possible to get the wheel even a couple of millimeters on if the wheel is not 'clocked' correctly to the steering shaft. One of the splines is double wide, so only when the wheel is turned to the correct position can you get it on the shaft. See the following link for a photo. http://www.lifeline-fire.com/images/products/detail/FormulaCarQuickRelease4101000012.jpgI believe the issue people have is that they are not pulling back on the release flange properly when inserting the wheel, so it does not go fully 'home', though it can feel like it.
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