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meabh #597948 03/10/19 03:09 PM
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Believe me Howard I have thought of all sorts of wheezes. I have two houses in England but I don't live in either of them so I can't even reimport it.

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I would be very unhappy with that! Sometimes you need to just take it on the chin though so it doesn't spoil your enjoyment of the car. Try a bit of man maths - that can help rationalise it!


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That's a lot of cash - is there anything that the supplying dealer can do regarding paperwork etc? At the end of the day its just a number on a piece of paper surely?


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The new plus six is less taxes.

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I'm really sorry to read this Ian, we all shared your joyful journey to ownership and great service from BHM and to end up having to pay this extortionate amount truly removes the joy factor. I wish you lots of Luck with a workaround possibly involving one of your UK properties.
If you need another UK address I can provide you with a choice of two if that could help.


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My sympathies.

When I ordered my 4/4 in 2010, the CO2 emissions were 139,6 g/cm. “Happy days” thought I - there is a break point in French company car tax at 140g/km. The car was delivered in April 2011, but since my order had been re-homologated to meet Euro 5, which came in on 1st Jan. Under Euro 5 the car was rated at 143g/km, which more than doubled my annual tax on it (about 800 extra per year times 5 years).

Of course, at the time I ordered it, Morgan wouldn’t have known what the new homologation results would be, nor the impact it would have on me. So I sucked it up and just enjoyed the car, as Rene recommends.

Dare I say, that the depressed exchange rate of the pound will have offset quite a lot of the 10k.

A bitter pill indeed,but we’re you to return the car to the uk, the loss you’d suffer on resale of such a recent car would be about the same, so I guess you’ll just have to
Pay the malus.


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Who pockets the €10,000 and what do they do with it? mad


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Hi,

I must admit 165 looks right to me over 200 does not?

If we base the Co" on a 2 litre petrol car i.e. the Ford Focus - the Co2 is 162......there is no way a +4 is over 200??

Ford Focus 2.0 Petrol MPG - Car Emissions
www.car-emissions.com/cars/index/ford focus 2.0...
CO2 (carbon dioxide), mileage, fuel economy and other emissions data for Ford Focus 2.0 Petrol cars. average fuel consumption is 45.9 MPG or 6.6 litres/100km and average CO2 output is 162.6 g/km based on 4419 models.

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For now the situation of Co2 taxation is very confusing in our country.
Taxes are based on the NEDC homologation cycle, they will be based on the more favourable WLTP only in june 2020.
Beware, taxes will be higher at the begining of 2020 (01/01/2020) and the maximum who is now 10400 € will grow to 12500 € swear


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Originally Posted by Felix42
Who pockets the €10,000 and what do they do with it? mad


The French government (of course).

Unlike in the UK, we’ve not had an annual road tax for some years now. The tax on vehicles with high emissions is all front loaded onto an emissions based tax on new vehicles at registration, and also on higher registration charges any time a more polluting vehicle is sold.

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