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I’m glad I have a February build date for my Roadster. Morgan have secured a batch of Cyclone engines and the message I am getting is it may be the last batch, after which the Roadster will follow the Trad Plus 8 into extinction, possibly because it’s too close to the Plus 6. After that the Plus 4 and 4/4 May soldier on for a year or two. I think if there are further Trads after that they will be over priced limited editions to keep the heritage alive, but not regular production models.
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Sad if true. You would think they could go electric.
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I just do not understand the fascination of electric cars because of their weight and lack of range.
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I just do not understand the fascination of electric cars because of their weight and lack of range. I think people are interested in the potential of electric cars rather than the current reality. (No pun intended).
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Well it seems that the naturally aspirated engines have reached the end of their life because of excessive CO2 emmisions. At this point there is absolutely no sense in re-engineering the trad chassis to take small turbocharged engines. I know nothing but I would have a little bet that 3 and 4 cylinder engines are already in CX series prototypes in the "skunkworks" at the Morgan factory, I would almost bet that they will be ready for release at the next Geneva show. The market for CX Morgans with a more "friendly" power plant will be much greater than that of the Plus Six. Due to volume production of the tub and lower hours for assembly I would also expect prices that will be comparable with current 4/4 and Plus 4 prices. Perhaps even lower  I think there's a place for a reasonable spec Morgan under £40K but seeing the first edition Plus 6's with the CX chassis are £92,000 upwards I also agree with the flying pigs! There are still some unsold 12 month old 'new' unregistered 4/4's for sale nationally and one of the reasons for them remaining unsold perhaps is the 2017 onwards £320 annual road tax surcharge for the first 6 years on cars costing over £40,000 new As much as I like my 4/4, I would find it hard to justify £160 plus £320 ie nearly £500 per year road tax for 1.6 litre weekend car, when my everyday cars cost less than £200 a year for both of them.
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Not sure why a Turbo engine is not usable on a Trad. Somehow I have a feeling the Trad is struggling with other aspects of Government Regulations other than emissions.
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Well it seems that the naturally aspirated engines have reached the end of their life because of excessive CO2 emmisions. At this point there is absolutely no sense in re-engineering the trad chassis to take small turbocharged engines. I know nothing but I would have a little bet that 3 and 4 cylinder engines are already in CX series prototypes in the "skunkworks" at the Morgan factory, I would almost bet that they will be ready for release at the next Geneva show. The market for CX Morgans with a more "friendly" power plant will be much greater than that of the Plus Six. Due to volume production of the tub and lower hours for assembly I would also expect prices that will be comparable with current 4/4 and Plus 4 prices. Perhaps even lower Peter if hopefully this is true ie similar prices to the present Trad for a CX chassis Trad then there will be a lot of happy Mog owners !
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Surely the modern small turbo engines are smaller in dimensions than the engines in current trads? Why would the chassis need re-engineering?
There's loads of room in there........
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The whole CX taking over the Trad makes me uneasy....
One of the reasons I enjoy the +4 so much is that it is a mystery to most...
Frozen in time an anachronism...
The plus six is a modern car dressed as a horse and cart.
For the layman they will not tell the difference between the trad and the CX and that is going to be a bit of a stain on us trad owners...
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I am working on the basis that at 65 years of age I have another 15 years (hopefully more) of enjoying my 3 Morgans both from a driving and working on perspective. By then they will be dinosaurs in the motoring legislation world and no doubt be consigned to a museum or scrap heap.
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