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NeilL #599833 17/10/19 09:29 PM
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Good to see you back again Neil.


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Great to see you back after your dice with man-plague.

Allon-White have a number of older Morgans in stock at present - worth a look although you might want to steer clear of the ones they describe as project cars given your comment on bulkheads.

They recently sold our old 4/4 (1985, B31HWP) - that was a good car and the bulkhead was sound when we sold it in Dec-13 and I suspect still is.

Good luck with your quest.


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- welcome back Neil; glad to hear you have the 'big C' on the run.....

A Mog with a replacement SS bulkhead (as suggested) sounds like a good plan thumbs

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When one gets into older Morgans (I have spent the last 35 years with Older Morgans. A lot older than 1997). I just let my heart and pocketbook make the decision. No way to check these old Morgans to be 100% that they are free from rust and rot. The sill and rocker is where I look. You can access the sill from under the front wing. I check the upholstery in the footwell. If it is ratty and/or wet I get suspicious. One trick I used when checking a old Morgan out was to make the Owner a deal. I would negotiate a price if I found no rust and rot. If I could pull the interior out or loosen it so I could inspect the wood from the front of the sill to the rear and inspect as needed to verify it was rot/rust free. For Me I can ordinarily fix this rot/rust quite easily and if I found rot/rust (and I usually do) I renegotiate the price - if I still want the Morgan. But ordinarily I just pay negotiated price and fix the rot/rust. If You have no skills, go find an old Morgan codger who can advise You. Somebody like Me. I do this for free all the time. Owners do not like Me, afterall I will tear the lining out if I start to see rot. No choice!


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Welcome back Neil.
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Welcome return Neil...hope you have fun seeking out your new Morgan.


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Neil, I saw your post in For Sale section and left comments. Waiting for Mods to approve it.....
Gives details of cvh efi I had in my first Mog....1993 4/4.


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NeilL #599938 18/10/19 03:22 PM
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Welcome back Neil, and I am pleased to hear that life is looking rosey again.

My advice would be to think very carefully about an older car. There are a number of issues that you may need to consider. Older cars tend to be less reliable and whilst they are easier to self maintain they may require unexpected and costly repairs. I speak from experience. Motor and electronic technology have moved on considerably and in general terms more reliable than older systems.

The other issue which may present problems in the near future is that the screws are slowly tightening against older cars on the grounds of polution. In my region the use of such cars may be banned on days of high polution and may be banned from entering certain city zones.

Not that I want to give my life story but having suffered a serious road accident followed by the loss of a lifetime partner after a long struggle with cancer I have decided that life is too short not to use what resources I can to achieve some of my dreams. This led me to a planned trip for one year to Italy in 2003 (and I am still here) and to purchasing a new Plus 4 in 2012.

I know nothing of your financial situation Neil but what I can say is that as far as possible live your dreams.

It seems to me that a decent 80s car will cost between £20K and £25K whereas a reasonably low mileage 2012 car (Euro 5 emissions and modern engine and electronics, plus better dampers and steering systems) can be found for around £32K.

A good example would be this: https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1165432
Another good example would be this 4/4 at Lifes: https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1165305


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Thanks v much Peter. Good advice - and thanks for the Links. Its quite a dilemma. but as said so often on TM ....the Right Car will find me ...hopefully!! laugh2


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Great to see you back Neil after your battle. I think Peter makes some very insightful comments within his post so very good advice indeed.

It is a dilemma - one I have been discussing with my father who got out of Morgan ownership 20 years ago and now wants back in. The sweet spot with regard ages/prices seems to be around the £30K mark - not that there is anything wrong with an older car - far from it, but for relatively little extra outlay a far more modern car can-be obtained with all the inherent advantages that brings. The other thing that struck me - I think your previous Morgan was an 80th Anniversary 4/4? Any car you end up with needs to live up to it or disappointment may set in?

Having said that Allon white have just listed a terrific 1983 4/4 with just 2200 odd miles on it - looks stunning. They also have a 1996 4/4 that looks good at a shade over £20K.



https://allonwhite.co.uk/used-morgan-cars-for-sale-uk/1983-morgan-4-4-metallic-grey-st1228

https://allonwhite.co.uk/used-morgan-cars-for-sale-uk/1995-morgan-4-4-black-st1211


Happy hunting and welcome back!

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