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My Plus 4 steering has always had a similar characteristic to the one you have described. I've always just put it down to the character of the car and it's ancient engineering.
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TBH, I also think it is part of the soul of the car. But I had a MOT(TÜV) appointment today and they were not happy about it. The car was left at the garage and they decide tomorrow if I get the new sticker when the MOT expert is back there. May be it is a matter of the amount of significance or in other words if a certain threshold has been reached they have noticed it at all.
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Good luck tomorrow Heinz, maybe a bottle of Asbach Uralt could help
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta 1999 Indigo Blue +8 2009 4/4 Sport Green prev 1993 Con Green +8 prev
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Oh...may be 40 years ago, today they know what a single malt is...
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Things have moved on Heinz since we lived out there  , it was the drink in those days..
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Does the Morgan use a variable rack and pinion system? Some cars have variable-ratio steering, which uses a rack-and-pinion gearset that has a different tooth pitch (number of teeth per inch) in the center than it has on the outside. This makes the car respond quickly when starting a turn (the rack is near the center), and also reduces effort near the wheel's turning limits. Years ago I had Sydney clients who held the patents on a system that was used by many manufacturers. They actually prepared the designs for their clients in their Sydney office. Quite a few Japanese cars used their design and tooling.
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TBH, I also think it is part of the soul of the car. But I had a MOT(TÜV) appointment today and they were not happy about it. The car was left at the garage and they decide tomorrow if I get the new sticker when the MOT expert is back there. May be it is a matter of the amount of significance or in other words if a certain threshold has been reached they have noticed it at all. I suppose it depends on whether it's a smooth and predictable action which is a characteristic or a "sticky" action that would be a fault.
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Good luck Heinz I would take Asbach Uralt over Scotch any day
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You all certainly know the experience that things get a little worse every day but for a long period of time you don't notice the change so much when you deal with it during a long time on aa regular base. E.g. the needle of a pickup system, an electron tube, a clean window glass... or if you look into the mirror every day... But suddenly a point is reached when the impulse is there that you have to change something.
It was similar with the MOT today. The Mog did not pass. First I was a little upset, but then I realized it. I tried the steering and actually it is so that there are very clear peaks where the steering is really very heavy. I hadn't noticed it before. But it's definitely not as smooth as it used to be. Now the point was reached as with the dirty window glass when you think you must clean it.
Seen that way I am grateful to the MOT. I will have let a detailed analysis of all UJs and all the other parts mentioned done next week. What is necessary will be swapped. Safety first. After that the car will be demonstrated and checked again. I think that hardly any car has to withstand so many vibrations and shocks as a Trad. Mog. That's why I'm really not annoying. I have an understanding. The car has 76,000 km in five years. It has deserved new components if they serve safety.
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It's good they picked it up at the TUV Heinz it has maybe saved you from something else, we never know. You will have peace of mind then also.
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