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In general terms perhaps it is time to switch from pyrotechnic displays to light shows and laser displays. The result would be less disturbing for animals and a lot less poluting. +1
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It seems that these fires are not the largest on record. This is worth a read through, goes back to 1851... https://guides.slv.vic.gov.au/bushfires/1851In 1851 Fires covered a quarter of what is now Victoria (approximately 5 million hectares). Areas affected include Portland, Plenty Ranges, Westernport, the Wimmera and Dandenong districts. Approximately 12 lives, one million sheep and thousands of cattle were lost. Probably because no one lived there and no one tried to put the fires out. If records existed I'm certain that fires of this size have happened across Australia for millenia. My view is that the Geo-ecology of Australia has evolved to a state that is incompatible with a western, developed, urban society. The only solutions may be one or more of the following, all are unacceptable and unrealistic. 1. Clear the scrub so that it doesn't come within 50km of any settled area: that would devastate the ecology. 2. Require all buildings to be built of non combustible materials: that would be unaffordable 3. Persuade people to live elsewhere: that would be un achievable. Globally there are too many humans living in places that are incompatible with settlement. Fiddling with CO2 emissions is not going to achieve anything. Human society, as we know it, is doomed. We have had our cake, eaten it and now must pay the price. Happy New Year.
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In general terms perhaps it is time to switch from pyrotechnic displays to light shows and laser displays. The result would be less disturbing for animals and a lot less poluting. +1 +1 from me. +1 each from our two horses
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Plus 2 from me and Lady HB and plus 4 (no pun intended whilst we are talking about such a serious topic) from each of our cats who get terrified now and in November for several evenings
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So are they still going ahead with the Sydney Harbour firework display???? To me that really is nonsensical. A good point DaveW. It was a very contentious and hotly debated right up to the last moment. I suspect it came down to two issues – safety and commerce. The City of Sydney had to get clearance from the Rural Fire Authority which was granted although I bet there were concerns for the bush-land areas around Wollstonecraft, Greenwich and Lane Cove National Park. As it turned out the 9pm kids fireworks were delayed because of the wind. The commercial argument was they were committed and the money spent not to mention the impact it would have had on the restaurant and hotel industry along with the tourist disappointment. With over a million people in and around Sydney Harbour this is no small show. With that decision made I decided to fire off an email to our State Premier, Gladys Berejiklianor stating:- Images of the NSW and Australian flag together with the fire fighters we have lost should be projected on the Opera House and Bridge Pylons prior to the fire works as a mark of respect and recognition and if not tonight, on Australia Day (January 26th) There was no real chance this would happen before the fireworks but let’s see what comes of this.
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It seems that these fires are not the largest on record. This is worth a read through, goes back to 1851... https://guides.slv.vic.gov.au/bushfires/1851In 1851 Fires covered a quarter of what is now Victoria (approximately 5 million hectares). Areas affected include Portland, Plenty Ranges, Westernport, the Wimmera and Dandenong districts. Approximately 12 lives, one million sheep and thousands of cattle were lost. Probably because no one lived there and no one tried to put the fires out. If records existed I'm certain that fires of this size have happened across Australia for millenia. My view is that the Geo-ecology of Australia has evolved to a state that is incompatible with a western, developed, urban society. The only solutions may be one or more of the following, all are unacceptable and unrealistic. 1. Clear the scrub so that it doesn't come within 50km of any settled area: that would devastate the ecology. 2. Require all buildings to be built of non combustible materials: that would be unaffordable 3. Persuade people to live elsewhere: that would be un achievable. Globally there are too many humans living in places that are incompatible with settlement. Fiddling with CO2 emissions is not going to achieve anything. Human society, as we know it, is doomed. We have had our cake, eaten it and now must pay the price. Happy New Year. Quite true Peter. In summary we have many more people and much less bush. In those days there would be no way to control or put the fire out. No doubt this had been going on for millions of years. Today, we insist on living close to bush, in houses not suited and practice poor land management - a long comes a major drought event so we now pay the price.
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In general terms perhaps it is time to switch from pyrotechnic displays to light shows and laser displays. The result would be less disturbing for animals and a lot less poluting. +1 +1 from me. +1 each from our two horses +3 and soon +4 when we get another cat. Something like the Gardens by the Bay light show in Singapore would be good. The music might be loud enough to scare some animals but less noisy that fire works. I played a New Years Eve gig last night, not that far away but a long drive home as the smoke is so thick it is impossible to see more than 100 metres and there were kangaroos everywhere. But it could be worse, I could be in the middle of the bushfire, not just in the middle of the smoke from the bushfires. This morning the visibility is probably 300 metres or so and the house is full of smoke even though we had all the windows and doors shut. A few people have been asking me my view about the long term affects of breathing in all the smoke. I hope it is not like breathing in Cigarette smoke. I hope nothing but really it is impossible to not breathe it in. So many nice cute towns like Mogo have been devastated. What is really sad is if/when rebuilt chances are they are going to be in a new ugly boring modern style of architecture. I hope not but I can imagine it would be like if every Morgan, MG and other interesting classic car was taken off the road and replaced with a white Toyota Camry. New buildings just seem to have no style whatsoever.
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Happy New Year Australia. Happy New Year London
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In general terms perhaps it is time to switch from pyrotechnic displays to light shows and laser displays. The result would be less disturbing for animals and a lot less poluting. And get Pink Floyd to do the management.
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