Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms Electric smart meters

Thanks Reg,
As an ev owner I can get electricity at 8p per kWh, after nine pm and before 7am and all weekend.
this helps with reduction of electricity bill not just for charging cars but general consumption.
This type of timed tarrif is generally available from EDF and several other suppliers, octopus energy, bulb etc, so if you can adjust your consumption to make the most it is useful even if you’re not an ev owner.
Thanks for your comments, appreciated.

Thanks for the comments, see my comment above as to why I want a smart meter. Cheers

Best guess based on comments above.

Ask them what model of meter they fit and the information should be available through Google like just about everything else on the planet.
https://www.uswitch.com/gas-electricity/guides/smart-meters-explained/

I understood that the first generation smart meters (SMETS1) did indeed have a supplier lock in and so went dumb if you changed suppliers.
https://forum.ovoenergy.com/smart-m...tility-are-they-compatible-with-ovo-5460

I think the new generation (SMETS2) have cross supplier capability and so if you swap billing agents it remains working. Worth asking what they plan to install.
The size of the smart meter in MiL and our home is really not that big. See bottom for link and specs.

An example would be the Secure Liberty 100 is a unit installed in MiL internal closet. I believe it is SMETS1 and has been used by a lot of companies.

The first installation of a smart meter is government subsidised/funded but replacements will be chargeable from my experience of our MiL's installation.

You will gain from having one in the future as the tariffs will benefit from cheaper overnight charges when there is a surplus (at least until we all start charging our electric cars).
an eco point of view it has real benefits so is not to be ignored.
The more we think about it the more we should reduce consumption all being well.

I totally agree re reading the bill requiring a Diploma. The only bill I hate more is the BT bill for the phone line, what a farce.

Dimensions (W x H x D) 140 x 175 x 60 mm
Manual - http://www.securemeters.com/files/6314/7531/1232/liberty_100.pdf [/quote]


Very many thanks Alistair, very useful info.
BR
Rob

Jon M,
That’s the conclusion I’m rapidly arriving at, they can’t give specific dimensions for the smets2 meter they are going to fit as “they’re all different”
And admittedly my meter cupboard has all sorts of additional items which were installed in there when my solar array was installed.
But to be honest it does seem to be a problem to which the remedy will be a significant spend to enlarge the cupboard. Not to mention some knocking out of bricks in the wall etc
BR
Rob

I have been pestered by Scottish Power for nearly 2 years now by phone, text, letters and e-mail to have a smart meter fitted.
I have told them more times than I can remember that I don't want one and in fact I would have a generator installed rather than be forced to have one if it became compulsory, this still didn't stop the onslaught of calls etc.

In the end I called their installation team and asked the question "If I already turn off all unwanted lights and only use the electric that I need, would the fact that a smart meter runs by electricity only push my consumption up?" The answer was "if you put it like that then YES"

The calls have stopped now.....

EON talked us into a smart metre 2 years ago (ish). We still get bills based on estimated readings despite being assured that the technology would work at our house.

I won’t bother for the gas supply until there is some fiscal incentive.

Both our meters are smart ones and they fitted in the same space as the old ones - problems initially as they would not work with solar panels - buut now all sorted. They are convenient and give some idea of useage - but I would not go to any expense to have them fitted - they are mainly for the convenience of the supplier so if they want you to have one they should cover all the costs IMHO.

SMETS1 meters are not transferable if you change suppliers. SMETS2 are transferable
Some suppliers still do not facilitate SMART meter readings
SMART meters do not reduce your usage, they just show you how much you are using.
When I last changed suppliers about 6 months ago, no suppliers offered or planned to offer discounts for SMART meter use.
SMART meters do not work in every home, they are dependent on signal strength, they don’t use your WiFi (that would be a security nightmare),
My SMART meter was a piece of pooh and got thrown, didn’t link to the supplier, so I had to send readings anyway.
A prime example of the technology not keeping up with the idea.

Our SMETS 1 smart meter, fitted by Scottish Power, works.
It offers me no benefit, other than not having to read the meter.
It saves them the cost of reading the meter once a year.
If I change supplier then it won't work.
All rather a pointless exercise, overall.

I've got one of the Gen1 Smart Meters that was supplied by EON. I'm now with Bulb.

Although the meter doesn't speak directly with Bulb, the meter still works with the display unit I've got indoors, so I can still get the meter readings without having to crawl around outside with a torch. I then send them to Bulb once a month via their app.