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Shame we can't use Nickel Iron (NiFe) batteries developed by Thomas Edison 120 years ago They are used a lot in the rail industry for backup if the power fails. Mostly level crossings. Makes sense given their longevity. I understand they were used extensively on the railways until the 1940's when lead/acid took over. Apparently they are making a come back as off grid green power storage. Their use gets better and better though. They give off hydrogen when being charged and thoughts are they could be redesigned as a dedicated hydrogen generator. As mentioned they are environmentally friendly, even the Potassium Hydroxide electrolyte, which ideally needs renewing every 5 to 10 years can be diluted down and used on farms to neutralise acidic soils.
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Once you've bought an electric car you adapt journeys to fit in with your cars range and the charging network. This is why Tesla works and I wouldn't consider any other electric car unless my average daily drive was less than about 80 miles. Right now I can get in my car and drive to the Arctic Circle, the south of Spain, the south of Italy or the far east of Hungary just as easily as a petrol or diesel car. My typical drive time to Geneva is about an hour longer than when I drove in the Range Rover. I like to stop every couple of hours on long trips for a cup of tea, breakfast, lunch, dinner etc and that's the perfect time to charge up. The Tesla nav system actually plans your route with stops along the way and recommends how long to charge at each stop to get to the next most convenient charge point.
Your comments about the south of spain etc dont tie in with Ruud's range figures not the real life nes from Tesla. A 200 miles range would cover all the lng jouneys that we do these days but there still is the inconvebience. A couple of cars ago we had a Volvo S60 factory fitted with their LPG system. That had a real world range of 200 miles and like Tesla you had to go to a special place to refill. There were lots of them but it was still infuriating to have to divert and still annoying to have to refill so often. Compare that with my current Merc diesel which happile has a real world range of 600 miles. Clearly I am going to end up changing to leccy but I am i no hurry to do so whilst th refuelling issue is so messy. What is needed is a 600 mile range so you can then schedule refuelling for when its convenient I can only make comments based on my own experience with my Tesla Model S over the last 170,000 miles driven, using either charging at home or the Tesla charger network, all since taking delivery in January 2015.
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sounds good , may I ask how long and how much does it cost to charge your car on a motorway area , no one appears to know
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sounds good , may I ask how long and how much does it cost to charge your car on a motorway area , no one appears to know Google is your friend here. A Tesla supercharger will put 50% of charge into your car in 20 minutes. I believe the cost is 24p / KWh of charge. So a full charge on a Model 3 standard range would cost £12 and give just over 250 miles of range.
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I would like to hear some first hand experience thanks
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I would like to hear some first hand experience thanks That's fair enough, but when the information on charging rates and prices is freely available on t'internet, don't you perhaps feel that claiming that 'nobody seems to know' might be perceived as being a trifle disingenuous?
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I would like to hear some first hand experience thanks Shooter took the time to fully document his experiences with long distance business travelling with his Tesla and it made very interesting reading. From memory he planned his working days around coffee and meal breaks (as we all do) to coincide with a charging cycle. I'm pretty sure the onboard computers and intel work out your "best" stops on route. I know he got a very good part exchange on the old one against a new model and that the battery was well in excess of it's estimated life. His has been the only real life convincing argument for electric for me that I have read anywhere. If I find the link I'll put it up on this thread.
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The area that I have not yet understood is the variation in the charging models.
The different charger networks can provide power at different speeds. Tesla still seem to have the edge here.
The different vehicles can absorb power at different speeds.
It would seem to be difficult to say XX will be the charging time as a result. You have to specify both sides of the question in more detail?
The maths do seem to be reasonably consistent from 5-80% of charge.
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Here’s an interesting thread on the Taycan forum... 10,000 miles in a TaycanIt gives an interesting view on the different charging options and problems.
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That was a good read. I love it where he talks about having the same bug on his ICE as the Audi eTron....all that money and you are still only two steps removed from driving a Golf  
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