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I admit I am an interloper in this forum , being firmly a trad +8 man , but I have noticed 3 recent highly damaged +6s coming up.
The demo car in Holland was well reported and perhaps just someone trying a bit too hard without getting the feel of the car first?
Then there was one in Poland which had been imported from Germany that came up on a Facebook Group.
Now another on eBay which is obviously a UK car.
Are these +6s really that fast that they are catching drivers out, or is it just test drives with the clients expecting all the electronic aids to get them out of trouble?
Be interested in your views
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Other than Plus 6's being auto gearboxes the only reason I can think that Plus 6's are being crashed is that every Morgan dealer has them and are maybe giving test drives too freely to overambitious test pilots who then run out of talent.
The Plus 8 which wasn't available for test drives doesn't seem to have suffered the same problem.
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Unusual for me, but I will keep this one short..(-: I have no real knowledge to work with, thus using nothing other than logic while contemplating the horse power ratings of modern sports cars and the many digitally operated systems to keep them out of the hedges, if the nut behind the wheel presses the loud pedal harder than the programming thinks he should, his actions may be over-ridden by one means or another...? I know little to nothing of the Morgans in question but I wonder if the +6 might have similar degrees of ...err...sophistication...?
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Somewhat different, but maybe a similar thing. I had a range rover some years back, that when pulling away from a T junction used to hesitate a little. This had the tendency to make you put the accelerator down a little more especially if you were cutting it a bit tight with a car coming. At this point the auto box would say "who me" & surge forward trying its best to put you in the opposite hedge. I wonder if the auto box on the plus six, whilst not hesitating as such does not quite respond as expected initially, resulting in too much throttle with some steering input on. Light Car it will want to swap ends almost immediately. Just a thought .
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The Plus 8 which wasn't available for test drives doesn't seem to have suffered the same problem.
My understanding is that Aero +8 also suffered a larger number of write-offs than is the case with trads, but perhaps they were not quite so public? Again it is outside my area of expertise but i was informed this was due to the very short rear overhang (compared to the other Aero 8 variants) which made the tail end VERY tricky to catch when on the limit. All I know was that when I drove a demo car (the white one with a Union flag on the bonnet) I was really surprised when the VANOS system suddenly "dumped" a whole load of extra torque to the rear wheels at about 4.000 rpm. Luckily I was going up hill on a straight road at the time, otherwise it would have been a very different story to tell.
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Whatever the reason, The Plus Six is one to treat with respect.
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Whatever the reason, The Plus Six is one to treat with respect. Agreed!
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They had the same issue with the Aero's when first born, to much power and unfamiliarity.
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They had the same issue with the Aeros when first born, too much power and unfamiliarity. The more I read of the bad boy reputation, the more I want to have a go!
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They had the same issue with the Aeros when first born, too much power and unfamiliarity. The more I read of the bad boy reputation, the more I want to have a go! me to.
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