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If we assume it is the BMW turbo 4 cylinder the engine will be 2/3rds the length, so leaving quite a bit of space at the front = front/mid engined.
I'd hope the manual box is a no cost option....: would it also be lighter than the auto box?
The B58 engine is offered in a range of power outputs, up to 302bhp. To be honest, if they use the 302 bhp version what is the point of the Plus Six? The 255bhp version would be a better "fit".
TBH Peter, I don't think it needs to be even "that" powerful i.e. the 255BHP you suggest? If you take a Trad Plus4 the power plant is circa 150 BHP - so CX 4 cylinder models maybe/should be 200BHP - to keep the PlusSix "the top/fastest model" and priced accordingly? The 2.0L B48 BMW goes from 180 to 302 bhp in its various guises. there is the F20, developed jointly with PSA, that has a 1600cc version, but it is nearing the end of its life, so I would expect the B58.
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If we assume it is the BMW turbo 4 cylinder the engine will be 2/3rds the length, so leaving quite a bit of space at the front = front/mid engined.
I'd hope the manual box is a no cost option....: would it also be lighter than the auto box?
The B58 engine is offered in a range of power outputs, up to 302bhp. To be honest, if they use the 302 bhp version what is the point of the Plus Six? The 255bhp version would be a better "fit".
TBH Peter, I don't think it needs to be even "that" powerful i.e. the 255BHP you suggest? If you take a Trad Plus4 the power plant is circa 150 BHP - so CX 4 cylinder models maybe/should be 200BHP - to keep the PlusSix "the top/fastest model" and priced accordingly? So do we know what actual power 4cyl turbo engine it is ? And presumably if they put a lower powered one in then it can be upgraded to the higher bhp anyway by re map ?  302 bhp sounds very useful ! 
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I wonder if the Geneva Show will actually happen. That's an interesting thought, Peter. It's certainly not beyond the realms of possibility, given the rate at which that virus spreads..
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The lighting on the cover is wrong if it was genuinely in the brightly lit PDI bays, looks like some photoshop copy n paste to me
Only around 10 days to wait anyway... March 3rd is Tuesday next week. And it's a genuine photo. Why Photoshop a car that is under a cover? And NO, I'm not saying what the car is.  Oh look it comes with a Burkha hide  Very good!
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Looking at the height off the floor I suspect we have all been hoodwinked. I have been thinking about it and have cracked it.
It is a 4-cyl Turbo off-roader in the manner of the Audi A4 Allroad and Volvo V70 Cross Country. They have added 2 more seats having managed to fix the ISOFIX issue with the new CX chassis.
Also in order to retain the roof-line the rear seats are backwards facing to get the authentic annoying children waving at you from the car in front experience of the old Volvo's.
Yes thats it. a Morgan SUV, or as we can call it the "woody" like the old Morris Minor Woody wagons? Plus (H)Eight maybe?
Have you been "on" the strong stuff????  Smokin'  his customers supply
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maybe it’s the 181hp 4 cylinder from Mazda
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The lighting on the cover is wrong if it was genuinely in the brightly lit PDI bays, looks like some photoshop copy n paste to me
Only around 10 days to wait anyway... March 3rd is Tuesday next week. And it's a genuine photo. Why Photoshop a car that is under a cover? And NO, I'm not saying what the car is. {quote=Malcolm Hoar]Oh look it comes with a Burkha hide[/img] Very good! Looks like we know a fair bit now ! 
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maybe it’s the 181hp 4 cylinder from Mazda That is what I would like to install in my 4/4.
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I’ve had a couple of four cylinder BMWs and have always found their manual gearbox rather ‘notchy’ and unsatisfying. Their auto boxes on the other hand have been a delight. Their new manual box might be different. All speculation!
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