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This is why someone would want to buy a new Morgan. To have a vehicle that looks like a classic but rides and handles like a modern sports car, to have a vehicle that has ABS (just in case) and at least the option of aircon, to have a vehicle that looks like a classic but you don't have to get your hands dirty, you don't even have to think about servicing it until you take it to the dealer every 20,000 km.
This is exactly my point. I completely understand why someone might want a traditionally-styled car but with up to date underpinnings, and that's what a modern Morgan delivers. I also understand why someone would want a traditional Morgan with none of those fancy modern fripperies. The thing is, you can easily buy one of these for far less money than buying new, so why worry that you can't get them new any more? £30k will buy a completely mint +4 with relatively few miles on it, you could throw another £10 or 15k at it getting it set up and personalised exactly to your specification, stick an ageless plate on it so nobody would know how old it actually was and still have £15k left over the price of a new one. A side note: When I see the prices of pre owned cars in GB and compare them with the price in Germany  Germany is expensive...
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The press release stating that a manual gearbox as an ‘option’ is a bit disappointing though The manual will be a deal maker for a lot of prospective customers even if it does cost a few pennies more  As Soleng said 190 bhp will be spot on power wise. I agree but that it will be an ‘option’ makes me think that A) it will be expensive B) a less than ideal and possibly a problematic mating of a manual gearbox and engine that probably wasn’t designed to be mated with a manual box Hopefully the engine and box will come from a tried and tested combination, I take your point though. I am wondering if they will offer a 4 seater Stewart ? Perhaps that will be the big Geneva reveal and could explain the higher stance of the Burkah car  That might be interesting Someone did say that the new chassis can be adapted as a 4 seater but my guess is that legislation for a 4 seater in European markets might be tougher to comply with now but I’m no expert
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This is why someone would want to buy a new Morgan. To have a vehicle that looks like a classic but rides and handles like a modern sports car, to have a vehicle that has ABS (just in case) and at least the option of aircon, to have a vehicle that looks like a classic but you don't have to get your hands dirty, you don't even have to think about servicing it until you take it to the dealer every 20,000 km.
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This is why someone would want to buy a new Morgan. To have a vehicle that looks like a classic but rides and handles like a modern sports car, to have a vehicle that has ABS (just in case) and at least the option of aircon, to have a vehicle that looks like a classic but you don't have to get your hands dirty, you don't even have to think about servicing it until you take it to the dealer every 20,000 km.
This is exactly my point. I completely understand why someone might want a traditionally-styled car but with up to date underpinnings, and that's what a modern Morgan delivers. I also understand why someone would want a traditional Morgan with none of those fancy modern fripperies. The thing is, you can easily buy one of these for far less money than buying new, so why worry that you can't get them new any more? £30k will buy a completely mint +4 with relatively few miles on it, you could throw another £10 or 15k at it getting it set up and personalised exactly to your specification, stick an ageless plate on it so nobody would know how old it actually was and still have £15k left over the price of a new one. That is where I feel my Roadster is " I have put a dateless plate on it and it has 10K on it now (it is 2004)" - 99.5% of people have no idea how old it is, most think it is 1970's and has had a respray/restoration!!! I do think people will be drawn to the CX Morgan - as it looks the same as most Morgan's but has modern underpinning's? That IS the attraction?
Honesty means doing it right, even when no one is looking!
2004 Roadster S1 3.0 V6 gone!
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I do think people will be drawn to the CX Morgan - as it looks the same as most Morgan's but has modern underpinning's? That IS the attraction?
I'm sure you're right. If I could afford one with a power plant suitable for my needs I'd be hugely tempted, an auto box wouldn't bother me at all.
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The B58 4 cylinder is sold with both auto and manual transmissions, this is the list for the 248 bhp version
2016–present G30 530i
2016–present F22 230i[10]
2016–present F32/F33/F36 430i
2018–present G01 X3 xDrive30i
2018–present G02 X4 xDrive30i
2020–present G01 X3 xDrive30e (PHEV Version)
And the 228 bhp version...2014–present F56 MINI JCW Hardtop and JCW Cabrio (320 Nm)[9]
2017–present F56 MINI JCW Clubman and JCW Countryman ALL4 (350 Nm)
2015–present F22 225i
2016–present F48 X1 25i/28i
2017–present F39 X2 25i/28i
2019–current F44 228i Gran Coupé xDrive
So I don't see any problem for MMC to offer a nice, slick BMW manual box. Without going nuts and checking out every model you mention, how many of those are in-line rear wheel drive?
Peter ![[Linked Image]](http://bradley.it/public_images/drive.jpg)
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The B58 B48 4 cylinder is sold with both auto and manual transmissions, this is the list for the 248 bhp version
2016–present G30 530i
2016–present F22 230i[10]
2016–present F32/F33/F36 430i
2018–present G01 X3 xDrive30i
2018–present G02 X4 xDrive30i
2020–present G01 X3 xDrive30e (PHEV Version)
And the 228 bhp version...2014–present F56 MINI JCW Hardtop and JCW Cabrio (320 Nm)[9]
2017–present F56 MINI JCW Clubman and JCW Countryman ALL4 (350 Nm)
2015–present F22 225i
2016–present F48 X1 25i/28i
2017–present F39 X2 25i/28i
2019–current F44 228i Gran Coupé xDrive
So I don't see any problem for MMC to offer a nice, slick BMW manual box.
Richard
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Autoevolution have a good article with the options. BMW with manual option looks favourite. The Ford options do not make sense.
News from Morgan that the car was on its way on Monday.
Not long now TMers.
Somebody knows and is sworn to secrecy.
This feels a bit surreal getting excited by new Morgan models.
It is like 1911 and 1932 for the 3 wheelers and 1936 for the 4 wheelers. Well before our time.
Titus
2007 +4 4 seater
2017 Mini Cooper
2007 VW Camper
1996 Honda TRX300
2012 Husqvarna 216
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Yes and just heard the Geneva show is definitely going ahead despite Corona Virus scare.
The 2016 onwards B48 190kW/255hp version sounds right to me, maintaining a reasonable power gap with the plus 6. Ironically this unit is also used in the 2 litre version of the Toyota Supra as is the 6 cylinder B58 used in the plus 6..
Richard
2018 Roadster 3.7
1966 Land Rover S2a 88
2024 Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450
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![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/02/27/P1160911.jpg) This is my new 4cylinder car - sorry, could not resist.
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