Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms Coronavirus / Corona Virus

It’s not serious to the vast majority of people whichever model you use. Some have it now and probably don’t know they’ve got it, which is why it is spreading as a pandemic

The clever part and why the British scientists are completely ahead of the game is and this clamour for closing down everything now is not the answer in that it pushes a large spike in the serious cases that need hospitalisation to whenever it’s decided to open back up again

The way it’s been handled in the UK is that it just flattens and broadens the curve so that serious cases can be dealt with better and therefore should reduce deaths

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - CORONAVIRUS

1. If you have a runny nose and sputum, you have a common cold

2. Coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough with no runny nose.

3. This new virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed by a temperature of just 26/27 degrees. It hates the Sun.

4. If someone sneezes it takes about 10 feet before it drops to the ground and is no longer airborne.

5. If it drops on a metal surface it will live for at least 12 hours - so if you come into contact with any metal surface - wash your hands as soon as you can with a bacterial soap.

6. On fabric it can survive for 6-12 hours. normal laundry detergent will kill it.

7. Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses. Try not to drink liquids with ice.

8. Wash your hands frequently as the virus can only live on your hands for 5-10 minutes, but - a lot can happen during that time - you can rub your eyes, pick your nose unwittingly and so on.

9. You should also gargle as a prevention. A simple solution of salt in warm water will suffice.

10. Can't emphasis enough - drink plenty of water!

THE SYMPTOMS

1. It will first infect the throat, so you'll have a sore throat lasting 3/4 days

2. The virus then blends into a nasal fluid that enters the trachea and then the lungs, causing pneumonia. This takes about 5/6 days further.

3. With the pneumonia comes high fever and difficulty in breathing.

4. The nasal congestion is not like the normal kind. You feel like you're drowning. It's imperative you then seek immediate attention.

It's all very well to talk in terms like this, but let's not pretend the human cost is going to be anything other than very high. With an R0 of 3.8 or so, to develop herd immunity we would need 70% of the UK population to be infected.

So we're talking 47 million people infected, 8 million so seriously ill that they need critical care, and 1 million dead, with the impact greatly skewed towards the over 65's. The current strategy of spreading this over the next year or so isn't going to change those numbers. Even the hopelessly optimistic best-case scenario is predicting c. 250,000 extra deaths.

By contrast, the approach in China is controlling the disease without developing herd immunity, they have an infection rate of only 0.0056%.

Don't worry. I have found the cure.

I must say that seeing what virtually all other countries are doing, this countries approach seems to either be an experiment which puts a very large number of people...those who are old and infirm, those who have serious health issues etc...in danger, or an arrogance of “we know best”. Personally I have no desire to be experimented on.