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Yes it is and that is why I have a full mud guard back there. I took the photo of the new symmetrical tire when I was refitting it into the space. Could not believe MMC uses an asymmetrical tire back there!!!
2019 M3W Sold and is now in Las Vegas enjoying the showgirls :-)
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I think I now have this problem!  Went for a quick spin (in splendid isolation) yesterday, and smelled fuel, and quickly returned to base. On dismantling the boot tray it looks as though the fuel is squirting out as in the Dropbox video above, although at the back out of sight. I thought I’d have a look on TM before doing more, and quickly found this thread. Thanks! Saved me a lot of time. A bit disappointed as the only use this year till yesterday, due to the appalling recent weather, was a trip to Williams for a service, back home, and then to the MOT station and home.
Rob
Bavaria 46, 20% of Hunter Impala. 100% of another Hunter Impala, black 4/4 Competition
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The idea is that you see it here first and then fix it before it leaks  . At least it saved a bit of time diagnosing. It seems that the dealers are not checking these filters for condition, let alone replacing them. They are supposed to be replaced every 15,000 miles according to the M3W service schedule but there is no calendar backstop, 3 or 4 years would be reasonable I would say. Make sure there is some insulation between the clamp and the filter body when it's replaced and write the date on the filter so you know when it was last changed.
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Good suggestion Planenut. I wondered about the dealer just servicing the car and not catching something like that.
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Arum I dont think going for "a quick spin" is in the spirit of things today. Would you consider driving 200 miles to Cornwall to "walk the dog" no you wouldn't. If you were to take your Morgan out briefly to check on a completed repair or to go to work or shops would be OK otherwise leave it in the garage. You should be able to check the fuel leak is sorted without leaving home.
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Yes, I notice that even MMC has urged us not to use our Morgans for non-essential trips.
We would urge you to keep your Morgan in the garage, to follow Government advice and stay at home. The next adventure can wait, and when all of this is over, your next drive will feel like your first.
Andy
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The fuel filter is made from aluminium and the bracket holding it from steel, it sits just above the rear wheel in all the dirt and (salty) water thrown up from the road. Even with a rear wheel mudguard in place it's an ideal environment for Galvanic Corrosion. If you look at the video and photo attached this is what can happen over a number of years. This is not my car but another TM'er who uses his car a lot, it's done over 40,000 miles and is a 2013 build car that has been regularly dealer serviced. The handbook states that the fuel filter should be replaced every 15,000 miles, so this should be on it's 3rd filter..... There is no record of when the filter was last replaced, if ever. The first indication the owner got that something was wrong was that the rear wheel lost traction as the tyre got soaked in petrol. Next time you have the boot tray out, have a check of the condition of the fuel filter and bracket, if it looks corroded get the filter replaced. It is a Mahle KL167 and usually retails for about £40. There are instructions on how to replace it as part of the fuel pump replacement information on the MTWC website, free for anyone to access https://www.mtwc.co.uk/the-5-speeder/ . If it looks OK I would suggest putting some insulation tape or heat shrink between the filter and the bracket stop the electrolytic action. If you get your car dealer serviced then check that the filter has been changed every 15,000 miles, or 3 or 4 years if you don't do a lot of miles, as the problem is related to age rather than mileage. The filter is also the system pressure regulator and keeps the injector pressure at 58 psi, the fire potential for high pressure fuel spraying out doesn't bear thinking about. Check it out while your car is in the garage and the weather is bad. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ga9v5a44goyv0pn/Fuel%20filter%20leak..mp4?dl=0![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/03/03/Filter.md.jpg) Simply amazing......
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Arum I dont think going for "a quick spin" is in the spirit of things today. Would you consider driving 200 miles to Cornwall to "walk the dog" no you wouldn't. If you were to take your Morgan out briefly to check on a completed repair or to go to work or shops would be OK otherwise leave it in the garage. You should be able to check the fuel leak is sorted without leaving home. Arum I dont think going for "a quick spin" is in the spirit of things today. Would you consider driving 200 miles to Cornwall to "walk the dog" no you wouldn't. If you were to take your Morgan out briefly to check on a completed repair or to go to work or shops would be OK otherwise leave it in the garage. You should be able to check the fuel leak is sorted without leaving home. I agree, Tim.  I had been intending to go to Tesco to shop - normally go in the truck - but thought the Mog needed a run. I have been very good!
Rob
Bavaria 46, 20% of Hunter Impala. 100% of another Hunter Impala, black 4/4 Competition
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our house is just about finished.... lots of winter "to do's" and checking on a bunch of stuff on my M3W is on that list
Rodger 2018 M3W "Dreamers on the Rise" 2004 Plus 8 (wife's) old Goldwings and a couple of Harleys
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Could have just wrapped the filter in a new bit of rubber to protect it from the rusty bracket but decided that I was sick of all the knuckle skin that has been lost on its corners over the years when trying to work or clean in about the swing arm so went down the slightly more elaborate route; One was supplied by Morgan; ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/04/02/Fuel-Filter-Mount-5866.jpg) Back half of clamp fitted to car; ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/04/02/Fuel-Filter-Mount-5868.jpg) Job jobbed; ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2020/04/02/Fuel-Filter-Mount-5869.jpg) Much swarf was harmed in the production of this clamp. 
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