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Even before the virus you couldn't even get on train without showing ID in China. They all have ID cards that scan & lots & lots of check points.
Lock down would be easy given the mentality but I expect they are hiding the true numbers.


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It would be interesting to know how China kept their virus figures very low and they are now through it . sherlock


A combination of slightly optimistic massaging of the figures, possibly? But the main thing is that they had a very rigorous control-based approach. Everyone was literally confined to their homes, there was very comprehensive testing, and anyone with even slight symptoms was removed from their family and taken to a separate quarantine facility for treatment.

Same with South Korea, they got on top of it very quickly.



You forgot to mention Taiwan, Japan and Singapore, they all got on top it very quickly.

Plus no doubt it was partly helped by everyone was wearing a facemask as well, a lesson they learn back in the SARS days.


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Found this very interesting video Re: US conspiracy theory which I'd heard about, whilst I am stuck in my own home twiddling my thumb doing absolutely nothing!

At the very beginning of the video, he also briefly described the rigorous procedure of quarantine whilst in China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOtqAd3wHXY


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Originally Posted by John V6
Even before the virus you couldn't even get on train without showing ID in China. They all have ID cards that scan & lots & lots of check points.
Lock down would be easy given the mentality but I expect they are hiding the true numbers.



One wonders what the true figures are ? Are they really through the virus and getting back to 'normality' ? thinking


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Originally Posted by kin

You forgot to mention Taiwan, Japan and Singapore, they all got on top it very quickly.

Plus no doubt it was partly helped by everyone was wearing a facemask as well, a lesson they learn back in the SARS days.



True. They were early to realise the value of facemasks. The view in the west seemed to be focused on the fact that face masks aren't very good at stopping one from becoming infected, whereas of course the thing they are very good at doing is stopping an already-infected person from infecting others.


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Exactly Tim.


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Originally Posted by BuyBritish
Here is an interesting video sit back .... some good info...its why we see fewer cases on Japan, south Korea but what about heard immunity


An excellent video. It really makes the point well.

Unfortunately for Italy the virus had already spread widely before we got on top of this. Now most people are wearing face masks when they go out and it is not permitted to enter a shop unless you are wearing a mask. There is still no absolute obligation for people to wear masks when they go out and this is a bit of a worry. One of our local police officers was not wearing a mask, even though he was keeping distance, when he was talking to Alis ten days ago and now we hear he is sick (we don't know if it is CV19).

Many organisations and private individuals are now making and distributing masks. The lady that does any clothing repairs and adjustments for us made us a gift of 6 masks the other day.


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Originally Posted by Gambalunga


All the above is a summary of advice given by an epidemiologist, in other words not something dreamed up by an unqualified person such as myself.


Perfectly logical. I'm sure you could have written exactly the same thing - doesnt need an "expert". Mind you its all theory. I dont know what its like in Italy but thre are no masks available here in the UK.

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Originally Posted by BuyBritish
Here is an interesting video sit back .... some good info...its why we see fewer cases on Japan, south Korea but what about heard immunity


The logic would be that it would reduce the herd immunity threshold. All herd immunity means is that 10 infected contagious persons can on average only infect 9 or less new people because the others they meet are immne or protected.. That 9 can only then infect 8. The growth of an infection in the crudest terms is of the form y=x^n if n >1 then the number infected y growth exponentially. If n< 1 then y dies away asymptotically approaching zero. In the crude example I gave above n = 0.9 At the moment in the UK n is more like 1.25. Face masks reduce n.

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I bought my CCTV techbits on Amazon from a chinese company called S3VC. This week I received an email from them saying that in these troubled times they had converted to making facemasks and would like to offer them to all of their customers in Europe. I will admit to a reflex action which I suppressed but then thought what the heck, I have not been able to find any locally and so read on.

@from them.

Dear Customer,

Good day!

This is Zinia from SV3C Technology. I did contacted you before for the after-sales service of our Security Cameras. Hope you didn't forget SV3C which is a company major in producing and selling Security cameras.

Now I contact you again since I just wondering if you are in the need of the FACE MASK for the COVID-19. As you know that COVID Virus is spreading fastly around the world which has affected our lives severely, while it is so necessary for us to wearing FACE MASK everytime we go out to protect us from the attack of COVID.

By the end of Feburary, 2020, to have our employees back to work normally without any worries(They has been trapped at home for almost two month and our company has stopped operating for almost one month for COVID-19 since Chinese Spring Festival), SV3C purchased a large number of FACE MASK per the requirments of our governments. Seeing COVID-19 was controlled in China recently, we still have much stock of FACE MASK at our warehouse.

So, did you prepared enough FACE MASK for your families ? Will you in the need of FACE MASK ? If yes, may SV3C can provide some for you at a competitive price. Here I attached our Quotation sheet and some pictures of Face Mask. If you have any doubts or you need more details, please just reply back this email. I will reply back the soonest.

Look forward to hearing from you. And hope everything is going well with you.

I am deeply sorry if my email disturbed. Appreciate your time on reading my email and your kind understanding. Thanks.

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