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I can understand where Keith might be coming from, and that he finishes by admitting he misses his M3W, which perhaps provides a clue to the existence of a degree of confusion when trying to apply pure logic, a situation I seem to struggle with somewhat on a semi regular basis... Thus my comment bears no intention to be in any way insulting.

If I start with a phrase I have often typed. I came to Morganeering as the result of being in search of a more vintage driver experience and a sense of involvement with my chosen machine that might also match my capabilities to maintain repair, and drive the wheels off the thing, well at least enough to scare myself on a rare occasion...(-:

It seems automotive evolution has greatly altered our expectations in terms of pushing our personal boundaries when in search of some degree of adventure, and for sure, anyone who drives a Morgan, let alone one with only three wheels and little or no protection from the elements, must be seeking something other that the cocoon like qualities of the latest and greatest that engineering provides..

Having spent very many years involved with engineering automotive and otherwise, I think I well understood the level of engineering involved in that which was a Morgan, and "hand knitted" is a colloquial term used in these parts to describe something that may be less than matching the expectations of high quality, a term that for me well fitted the output of the MMC as I imagined it to be at the time..

Having spent many a decade messing with Brit Iron, I eventually arrived at Porsche ownership which by their 80`s, seemed to fit well with my expectations of engineering advance in terms my ideals of a sports car .

In terms MY priorities well perhaps like most folk they alter with the passage of time somewhat, and after over 10 years of Porsche involvement I was provided the opportunity to sample the latest Porsche at it`s launch, in the form of the 993. The 993 was a great advance over my then 10 year old and circa 100K mile 911, it was more powerful, easier to handle and perhaps increased SAFETY was prioritised as a requirement of the design criteria..? It was not until the drive home in my old 911 that I began to think that to derive the same level of pleasure from the 993 that I so enjoyed in my old 911,that the latest Porsche might require to be driven at somewhat higher road speeds over the same stretch of road than my old 911, such was the degree of possible isolation that seemed to come with all the other Porsche engineering advances....???

Thus I blame Porsche and a degree of ..err..maturity for inadvertently awakening me to the advantages of older technology, in that I began to desire a more basic form of motoring when seeking to enjoy a bit of congestion free and interesting Tarmac... Of course when I began to think of Morgan, I was sold on the olde worlde coach-built hand-crafted and heritage stuff, while A Morgan provided some degree of modernity bolted roughly into vintage aspects of a machine that could provide the advantage of keeping up with modern traffic demands, if I was ever unfortunate enough to meet up with them. A Morgan could also provide avoidance of the disadvantages of a reasonably powerful truly vintage vehicle (greasing aside) and real world cost implications of running a Vintage machine....?

To me a TRAD Morgan seemed to have the potential to provide a sense of "adventure," but it seems best to be well aware of the realities of running a...err... hand knitted machine when compared to ALL that might be expected of modern engineering design and safety standards..Thus I have no grounds for complaint as I accepted a Trad Morgan, foibles and all from the outset..

Given my awareness of the construction of my +8 and that while seated within I can touch the road surface, safety was logically some way down on my list of priorities...Quality engineering..? Hmm, well I covered that to some degree, but hoped that my inbuilt and hard won degree of self-reliance mixed in with a make-do and mend upbringing, might provide a reasonable match betwixt Morgan and man for some reasonable period of time.

I have a large degree of respect for those who have whatever it might take to ..err..persevere to the extent they can soak up all the possible highs and lows of Morgan ownership. In my case the highs were very high indeed, and the lows easily forgotten, though that Kevin had rebuilt his Morgan with great care and stainless fixings prior to my purchase of it, I suspect I may have experienced very few of the possible lows while enjoying the aforementioned highs in the form of adventures.. I would wish the same for all Morganeers, who seem to be, or perhaps need to be for the most part, a breed apart...

Very nicely put :-)

Well put Luddite, I swapped my 996 C4 for the M3W because so much enjoyment can be had at sensible speeds and much more involvement with the thing itself. The 996 was just boring until well north of any speed limit.

Another upside which I didn’t bank on at purchase time was the wonderful people I have met through M3W ownership, the cameraderie and the social side.

Long may it continue.

I think MMC created all the M3W problems on purpose.
Imagine the little beast would have no bugs.
Everyone would insist to get the great fun machine and MMC could not handle all the demand and all other developments would have been stopped.

The bugs are necessary for the survival of MMC.

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Twice I broke the bevelbox housing on the gate stopper while driving in reverse at 3 km / h, for the chassis it was cracked and reweld in four different places on the front part.

My dealer is aware I forgot to ask the question (how many cracks to have another chassis under warranty.

Agreed. Imagine the content of this forum if the M3W were a perfect modern machine

Wow GLLOQ, that is some collection of fun and photographs.....
Good luck getting it fixed, what an experience

Enjoyed reading your post Luddite, I can concur that my 1 year and a bit of M3wheelering has been a mixture of highs and lows.
I can honestly say it’s the most enjoyable car to drive I’ve owned but having it back at the dealers for fairly major repairs for the second time does test my sanity.
At least MMC are picking up the bill but will be an expensive car to own if it’s the same after the warranty runs out.
Then we get GLLOQ’s post “Broken Bevel Box🤪

If the chassis is fractured ( broken) then I would expect MMC to offer a replacement as its a safety critical item. With the broken bevel box out of warranty maybe they would make a contribution to the cost of repair.