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There will always be some nutter who thinks way more power is better. Oh hang on that's me, whoops. Agree and some people would want at least a six cylinder engine with auto transmission like our friends over the pond. The roads over in the US are bigger and more suited to a Plus Six too. Like John I wish MMC well. I'm sure they have done their marketing and have a different target market for the Plus Six than the Plus Four.
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When I had a test drive the dealer said if you want to test the power make sure you have it in manual mode. He warned specifically about the engine dropping too many gears and losing controls
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When I had a test drive the dealer said if you want to test the power make sure you have it in manual mode. He warned specifically about the engine dropping too many gears and losing controls Frightening! Surely, MMC can develop some gearbox software, to stop the auto box causing control issues, under hard acceleration? Bud 4/4 - Stanley
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Reading all your comments I remember Walter Röhl. He said:
"Ein Auto ist erst dann schnell genug, wenn man morgens davorsteht und Angst hat, es aufzuschließen."
Google translate:
"A car is only fast enough if you stand in front of it in the morning and are afraid to unlock it."
2005 4/4 1800ccm Duratec and a lot of HONDA CX500.......
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If Walter Röhrl is afraid of the car the next morning, then he has already conquered it once and got to know it very well. Probably the Plus Six wreckers were not scared enough because they had no chance to get to know the car properly before they lost control. The image of Morgan is not (yet) aggressive. So it's easy to underestimate the car.
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Now Walter's opinion of the car would be something worth listening to - and watching..
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I guess he combination of driver ability ( lack of) combined with possible auto box issues is one that is the cause. The temptation of top of the range car with that power can put unsympathetic drivers out of their depth. The theory of the overreacting auto box dropping down too many gears and thus delivering high torque to the rear sounds a deadly effect. Seems like a manual box is better suited unless an upgrade can be done to manage the box response better. The Plus4 looks a better combination in a manual format. I’d opt for the manual. My trad Plus8 sometimes feels like an auto in that the torque allows fewer gear changes unless you need to. It took a few trips to adjust to the feel after my 4/4. Learning to have a lighter right foot exiting roundabouts, especially in the wet or using a higher gear to limit torque were the key factors.
Last edited by sospan; 03/07/20 05:01 PM.
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John Hildred summed it up on the luxury car program for me.
Just watched the program and for me the interesting bit was John Hildred's comment on his first drive of the Plus Six, he loved it and ordered one but the telling statement was he loved the raw feel without all the "safe" devices which is exactly what he is after.
I think this explains a lot about the alleged 20 losses so far and that a man of his driving experiences can cope with this kind of car, to me he is not the typical new Plus Six customer and that explains a lot.
Driver training should be a prerequisite for the model.
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Does anyone know how many plus 6 there are on the road? According to how many are left is states there were only 29 on the road in 2019. That seems way too low.
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=Morgan+plus+6&commit=Search
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That looks like very little. One would have to know how many Plus Six were built in 2019 and how many were exported.
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