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Originally Posted by Laurens
For all the ones who don't want to end up this year without a splendid M3W trip.
It's always possible to join the M3W Jungfrau Treffen in Grindelwald on 3 - 4 - 5 September 2020
Plenty hotels available.
Excellent tours through the most superb scenery in Europe.
Good restaurants.
And best of all ...... unsurpassed warm M3W cameradrie.

At this moment it's fully safe to travel around in Europe and Switzerland.
There are NO restrictions which influenced the M3W Jungfrau Treffen 2020

Check out the website for more details and contact



You know we're working on it Laurens! Cross fingers! wink

Still no reply from our south west France colleagues... somestick but if there is a chance we join their gang, we'll try to make it happen this year. cheers


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Switzerland issued new guidance on Corona Virus Quarantine from the 8th August.
Spain is now included, so anyone entering Switzerland fron Spain has to self isolate for 10 days.

List valid upon arriving in Switzerland from 8 August 2020
• Argentina
• Armenia
• The Bahamas
• Bahrain
• Bolivia
• Bosnia and Herzegovina
• Brazil
• Cape Verde
• Chile
• Colombia
• Costa Rica
• Dominican Republic
• Ecuador
• El Salvador
• Eswatini (Swazsiland)
• Equatorial Guinea
• Guatemala
• Honduras
• Iraq
• Israel
• Kazakhstan
• Kyrgyzstan
• Kosovo
• Kuwait
• Luxembourg
• Maldives
• Mexico
• Moldova
• Montenegro
• North Macedonia
• Occupied Palestinian Territory
• Oman
• Panama
• Peru
• Qatar
• Romania
• São Tomé and Príncipe
• Saudi Arabia
• Serbia
• Singapore
• Sint Maarten
• Spain (with the exception of the Balearic and Canary Islands)
• South Africa
• Suriname
• Turks and Caicos Islands
• United States of America (including Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands)


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And this is if you've been in one of the listed countries in the previous 14 days. So, if we want to enter Switzerland "properly" we should leave Spain to a country that's not on the list the 18th or 19th next week. Impossible right now goodnight

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Originally Posted by Marmota
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And this is if you've been in one of the listed countries in the previous 14 days. So, if we want to enter Switzerland "properly" we should leave Spain to a country that's not on the list the 18th or 19th next week. Impossible right now goodnight


Or go straight to Switzerland and self isolate for 10 days - saves you 4 days overall hide


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Originally Posted by Marmota
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And this is if you've been in one of the listed countries in the previous 14 days. So, if we want to enter Switzerland "properly" we should leave Spain to a country that's not on the list the 18th or 19th next week. Impossible right now goodnight


Or go straight to Switzerland and self isolate for 10 days - saves you 4 days overall hide


For sure a recent Corona test with you will do the trick as well 😁


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I read the conditions imposed by Switzerland to see how to sneak through... and there is no way without a risk. frown

A test as Laurens suggests is not admitted as a proof you’re Ok. They will put you in 10 days isolation anyway. It’s written in the “Swiss rules” for Covid19 people entering the country. gloomy

They say that if you’ve being in Spain in the past 14 days, you’ll be isolated for 10 days. But we’re supposed to come to Switzerland driving from France. innocent

I have a Swiss passport and Ana María has her Guatemalan one. So, we could get in has Swiss and Guatemalan, but the 3-Wheeler still has obvious Spanish plates that may alert the Swiss neurotic policemen and citizens.

If we get in with the 3-Wheeler from France, different scenarios are possible.

Scenario 1: I guess we won’t have problems crossing the border as they usually don’t do any controls. But if they do because the situation with the Covid19 is what it is, and they see our Spanish plate in a striking 3-Wheeler, we’ll have 99% chances to be stopped. And probably our entrance rejected.

Scenario 2: we make it into Switzerland without being stopped at the border. Arrive to Grindelwald. We park our 3-Wheeler and register at the hotel with our Swiss and Guatemalan passports. Guatemala is also banned, so this might pull the trigger for the person at the front desk. If it doesn’t pull the trigger, maybe later a local bored and enthusiastic Swiss policeman sniffing around the 3-Wheelers spots ours with its Spanish plates. And starts investigating and asks questions and… OK just imagine. It’s Switzerland and I know the guys (remember I’m Swiss too, no offense). Some can get paranoid and pursue us, and we can get in big trouble then, as they can penalize us with 10.000 CHF each! Really expensive holydays then!
The problem is how would the Swiss authorities know if we’ve being out of Spain for at least 14 days before entering Switzerland? We won’t be able to prove that. They can’t prove the opposite too, but we are not the authorities, they are…

Scenario 3: we’re in. Nothing happens. We’re happy and enjoy the Junfrau-Treffen with all the gang.

To be honest, unless the Swiss change their mind about Spanish travelers, we won’t take that risk. Sad, but this is our reality today. I hope that before the end of the month the situation changes for good.

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You all could just let it run wild like our leadership is doing..... I am betting on 200,000 dead in the USA by my birthday in early September


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Originally Posted by Marmota
(...) I hope that before the end of the month the situation changes for good.



I am sorry to say that all people in and around Europe have to be very carefull and try to hold the pandemie on a low level - I am afraid this is the maximum we can expect!


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Let s go on Provence YouTube should appreciate nice places And knowing us

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Originally Posted by atalante83
Let s go on Provence YouTube should appreciate nice places And knowing us


That's a very nice offer!

We plan to travel from SW France to a close place of the Swiss border with Black Adder and his gang.

If by then, Spanish are still banned to enter Switzerland (when I say banned I mean for a free entrance, without 10 days lockdown) then we'll stay in the Provence or Northern Italy. Now with your invitation, Provence will be clearly the best choice!

I really love the camaraderie of this forum grouphug


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