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There are a few specialists that re-engineer E Types as we know, I wonder if they are the next ones to line up in JLR's lawyers sights ?
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I still reckon debts of £850,000 may have had a major influence on the decision.
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You're right, Suffolk were in serious financial trouble long before Covid or the Jaguar letter.
It appears the company is now back up and running under the same management but no longer has any debt. If true, that ties in with what the financial chap on Pistonheads speculated would happen (as quoted previously on this thread) .
Jaguars motivation is unclear, but looking enviously at Suffolks "profits" seems rather unlikely. Opinion in the Classic Jaguar world seems to be that JLR have zero chance of winning any court action against replica manufacturers. They've just lost the case against Ineos regarding the Defender and that's a car that was recently in production.
There's a lot regarding Suffolk business practices on other forums and much of it isn't complimentary. How much is true is another thing of course. They certainly turned out some cars with fake identities and I wouldn't want to be an owner of such a vehicle.
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Well that certainly is illuminating particularly the last paragraph if it is proven and would explain why TATA wants to distance itself.
Things are seldom what they seem in the car business and this is a very convenient route for the Suffolk management if not a noble one.
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. If anyone on this thread thinks that JLR for one second thought for a millisecond that they were afraid of Suffolk sales are cutting into their sales are delusional. They sound less cars per year than you can count on both hands than JLR sell in a day.
Suffolk make great cars, for what they were in limited numbers for those that wasted a classic/modern Jag but I'm sorry for being so blunt, let's give this a rest. There wasn't a market for a such a car and sadly, the business case wasn't sound.
if this was BMW wanting to build a Golf and VW beat them in court as they were building a car that looked and gave the dynamics of a Golf, I can see see the arguments of some of the comments. Suffolk sold an inconsequential fronton of what JLR sell. It's crazy to think that for a nano-second that JLR were afraid of losing sales to Suffolk.
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Well that certainly is illuminating particularly the last paragraph if it is proven and would explain why TATA wants to distance itself.
Things are seldom what they seem in the car business and this is a very convenient route for the Suffolk management if not a noble one. Unrelated, but a University mate of mine was the 'godson' of the chair of Tata. Went over to visit in the late 80's and he took me up to the penthouse of Tata Tower in Calcutta. The views were amazing!
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I am aware of a hell of a lot more detail than has been expressed here but as I said before, there's no point, lets just move on and enjoy what may possibly be the last couple of weeks of driving freedom.
Here for a good time not a long time!! Reg
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Well that certainly is illuminating particularly the last paragraph if it is proven and would explain why TATA wants to distance itself.
Things are seldom what they seem in the car business and this is a very convenient route for the Suffolk management if not a noble one. Unrelated, but a University mate of mine was the 'godson' of the chair of Tata. Went over to visit in the late 80's and he took me up to the penthouse of Tata Tower in Calcutta. The views were amazing! Good stuff quite an experience, I guess the air was a bit cleaner out there then, a good contact to keep. I don't see you as an Evoque kind of man though more old style Defender..
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Good stuff, I guess the air was a bit cleaner out there then a good contact to keep, I don't see you as an Evoque kind of man though more old style Defender.. Too right - I've had a S3, a couple of S2A, a RR Vogue and a Jag X300 but the Ewok is just a bit too 'Beckham' for me  Wouldn't say no to an F Type though 
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. @ Admin, feel free to delete my account. . Why? If you have broken the rules or gone "over the top" in any way I have not noticed it.
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