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I have only been a Morgan owner since the day before lockdown! I drove home from New Elms and didn't get another drive for 8 weeks - absolute purgatory for me as you can imagine. So yes I am very much on a learning curve despite having my car "Wolfed to the max" since then.
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Remember the Osrams have a much reduced life compared to standard H4 bulbs. Osram LEDs guaranteed for 5 years.
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Remember the Osrams have a much reduced life compared to standard H4 bulbs. Osram LEDs guaranteed for 5 years. That's good. Be lucky to get 5 months out of a filament Osrsm 
"Y mae dafad ddu ym mhob praidd" 1972 4/4, 1981 MGBGT, 1984 FLHT1340, 1980 XLH1000, 1990 ZX10
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I do not think there is anything such as an Osram H4 LED Nightbreaker. Osram has H4 LEDs, but not with the Nightbreaker denomination. So if Nightbreakers are recommended, it is halogen, for what it is worth. I wouldnt worry too much about the lifespan. Most Mogs have low mileage, so they should last a long time. My Philips Racing Vision has been there for two years, but during daytime I use only DRLs, saving the main lamps. Then there is the legal issue .Norway is obliged to follow the same MOT rules as the rest of Europe, but they seem to be interpreteded differently. DaveW has stated that when a car is specified with a H4 bulb, H stands for halogen and cannot be switched for anything else, so LED would not be road legal - if I have understood him well. Where I live you can fit anything you like - LED/xenon/HID - provided the car has a headlight washing device and automatic levelling control. This applies for the dips only, if you have separate dip and main lamps. A Morgan has nothing of that, so LEDs are not road legal for that reason too. Again according to DaveW, this limitation does not apply to a Morgan in the UK due to the basic construction of the car. I really didn't understand that, and I apologize if I have misinterpreteded something. My point is, it might be a good idea to do a little research before one makes changes, what is road legal and what is not. Then one might say that you doesn't care, the LED might go unnoticed on a MOT or one can switch LED and halogen back and forth before and after a MOT. Now every man to his own, but I think it is only fair to mention legal aspects too, when we are giving out suggestions, advice and opinions. And directly to Barry M, if you plan to drive through the autumn and winter in the dark, go ahead and do some changes. If you plan to put your car in the garage for the winter or just drive it on a sunny sunday, leave it be until you get some more experience, have met the crowd, let some desicions and ideas mature in you head, for example next spring. At least, that is what I would have done. The best mod I have done so far? Changing mirrors.....
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Good point there Heinz, I sometimes feel I'm screwing up my eyes to compensate for the oncoming bright headlights, If a high 4x4 is following that also causes rear view mirror blindness
Exactly! I have reduced my cover at MMC while the daylight is short. A major RTC nearly 20 years ago due to losing night vision means most night driving is very stressful.
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I don't particularly like driving in the dark in my everyday car but we are now in the season of dark mornings and evenings. Since my Morgan was bought for driving enjoyment rather than necessity I wont really be driving it in the dark.
Rob
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BRIGHT lights and ..err..mature drivers seems like a mix that has potential to cause issues....
I can well understand that it may seem wise to compensate for age by having ever brighter headlights, though has been mentioned it seems as we age we may be more affected by the glare of the upgraded headlights of others..? Now that indicators may be situated very close to headlights, it seems logical that headlight glare may mask the ability to observe on coming traffic`s indicators in action..?
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Just barreling along Needs to Get Out More!
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Which Nightbreaker version is recommended by Allon White? While googling I saw by chance that Osram now has a LED nightbreaker version for the German market, which has a legal approval for the first time! Not for all car models (no Morgan as exotic in the list). But I would feel more on the safe side and one could keep the nice classic look.
https://www.osram.de/ecat/NIGHT%20BREAKER%20H7-LED-LED%20Lampen%20für%20Abblendlicht-Autobeleuchtung-Automotive/de/de/GPS01_3401765/PP_EUROPE_DE_eCat/ZMP_4062000/
There is also an English site (right above the small globe) but I have just looked for the German market.
Heinz, be careful that looks like a H7 bulb, you need a H4 style base with 3 pins
Jon M
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Someone on here has. I would be wary as LEDs get hot and the cooling fins on these are inside the light reflector. I bought mine form these guys. They are very knowledgeable. Classic car LEDs
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I have found these which are not cheap but also not Williams money. They have acceptable looks I think so any opinions? Thanks for sage advice Robbie M.
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