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Hey Laurens, Yes - lubricate the rollers with grease - use silicone grease which has a high temperature limit and resists centrifugal force throwing it out. My experience is that a small amount of grease finds its way quickly to all parts but best to get it to the back if you can. The down side is the aluminium turns it all black and it is sticky! I don't think greasing one end will make torsion worse as the greased end will provide no resistance to any twisting at the other end. The tray is a good idea but cooling is important so the mesh would be the right choice.


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Hi Phil

You mention cooling is important.
Can you expand on that please - have you seen something to indicate enough heat can be produced to degrade the rollers?
If so is a forward pointing duct under the roller access hole to direct airflow into the compensator chamber worth considering ?

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So Phil,, how do you get to the area where grease would need be applied to those rollers? Special tool of some sort and if so could you Post a photo of that tool?


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Rollers nice and easy to access once you've had Phil's mods. innocent
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Phil is a very very long way from here. I cringe at the thought of shipping a bellhousing and Centa to England and its total costs and possible loss.


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Originally Posted by LightSpeed
Phil is a very very long way from here. I cringe at the thought of shipping a bellhousing and Centa to England and its total costs and possible loss.

Buy the parts from Phil and do it yourself, I did, or find someone local to you to do the machining.


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Originally Posted by LightSpeed
Phil is a very very long way from here. I cringe at the thought of shipping a bellhousing and Centa to England and its total costs and possible loss.

It has been done from other parts of Europe but I agree about the possible loss. Why not bring the whole car on a holiday to England - you know you want to!


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Originally Posted by LightSpeed
Phil is a very very long way from here. I cringe at the thought of shipping a bellhousing and Centa to England and its total costs and possible loss.

Buy the parts from Phil and do it yourself, I did, or find someone local to you to do the machining.


I am making the kits a little more user friendly ( I think it is called de-skilling these days) and I supply all of the drawings free of charge if you want the machining done locally

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Originally Posted by nippymog
Hi Phil

You mention cooling is important.
Can you expand on that please - have you seen something to indicate enough heat can be produced to degrade the rollers?
If so is a forward pointing duct under the roller access hole to direct airflow into the compensator chamber worth considering ?

Thanks
Graham


I have done temperature checks with the cut out open and the outer, aluminium rotor gets up to 84 degrees C - polyurethane as standard degrades rapidly at 80 deg so I went for a higher temperature resistant material which has been successful to the point that I have only had one failure in over 50 sets supplied and he is a self confessed daily hillclimber! I do not know how much hotter it would get if the cutout were closed off but why go there if you don't need to? I have never seen any signs of foreign matter in there in 20,000 miles. A scoop might pick up detritus from the road?


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Originally Posted by LightSpeed
So Phil,, how do you get to the area where grease would need be applied to those rollers? Special tool of some sort and if so could you Post a photo of that tool?

No tool invented yet - I take out the rollers and grease them manually. if you don't have my upgrade then you could cut a big enough access hole which could be done with the engine in situ, then just a piece of flexible tubing on the end of a grease gun or mastic type gun would probably do the trick. Bear in mind that Andy's photo shows my removable end plate - you do not have that luxury as standard.


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Thanks Phil.

How would you suggest cutting that hole for your Centa conversion in SITU? Die Grinder? That would save shipping the bellhousing to you to do the conversion.


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