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This is such a difficult story, interfering with other members' purchasing decisions. But to be perfectly honest, the BMW Plus 8 that Peter J. links here is a fantastic car that I would instantly prefer to a new Plus Four at approximately the same price, she is such an extraordinary bargain and with 2,300 silly miles not even broken in that I myself could become weak if she were a LHD, or keep your Plus 8. Sometimes a negative thing like a lock down is a good thing to re appreciate what you have Richard. Just like you described your real emotions when you rode her again a little bit the other day.

Rich even more of a bargain. Plus 8

Some possessions become an extension and an expression of ourselves they become part of the family and often represent the embodiment of some great memories that can be hard to let go. I'm in the process of buying a different Morgan in the coming days, I believe it is a better car for my needs, but I have become very attached to my current Morgan in the 6 months of ownership,

I'm excited at the prospect of another car but slightly wary of letting go of the known qualities of my current car, it doesn't represent so great a change as I'm going from one tradition Morgan to another traditional Morgan. I still experience a few moments of quiet reflection and a little doubt,. When it comes to the head or the heart, I usually when ever possible allow the heart to win, the head can too often over think things and find problems that don't really exist or to the extent you may talk yourself into., a constant battle between our acceptance and tolerance for the known and certainty and on the other hand the unknown and a the potential for a new journey of discovery. I find that as I get older I'm becoming less tolerant of change.

Heinz, thank you very much for your contribution, quite how you managed to sum up how I feel in a language other than your mother tongue is a credit to you indeed.

I am really appreciating all of the helpful comments and advice from my learned colleagues as you have recognised that I am really struggling over this decision, my main worry is that the Plus Four will be lacking in character to me coming from the full on full fat experience of my Plus 8.

The other major factor is that we are imho witnessing the last few years of un policed/unlimited running of such ICE and I would regret not relishing the last few years of such beautiful machines.

I say that in the full knowledge that I doubt my car will be allowed within the boundaries of any city whereas the Plus Four will be, but that is almost irrelevant for me.

Thank you Peter, all good thoughts on my current dilemma (albeit 1st world) that is a very nice Plus 8 anniversary there with crazy low mileage in a colour I like,

Heather is not too keen on all the yellow bits or stickers though and as it was herself that suggested getting a newer model Morgan if I felt like it I won't be going down that route however tempting.

Thank you for your most kind offer I much appreciate that, I'm sure we will eventually meet up in person at a TM event sometime soon when we are all released.

Thanks once more Heinz for your valued input, I think the key is the emotions aroused in the vehicle, my gut feeling is that the Plus Four will be very competent but characterless for me being used to a Plus 8 with all her foibles.
I revel in the fact that she demands your attention at all times, so you are actually driving (I resent talking to a passenger as it detracts from the experience), compare this to Heathers Polo GTI with 192bhp manual gearbox and automatic everything else which is a joy to drive but you can have a lapse of concentration and it will save you so nowhere near as engaging.
The Plus 8 bites you hard when you get it wrong, so perhaps it is I that is the problem not the Plus Four, I think it will be a lovely competent car for many people but as yet I am not ready to move onto my next romance, if ever.. but always with an open mind.

Nice one Peter but we know the previous owner

Very interesting thoughts I understand your struggle as those anniversary models are just the best with some lovely features on them and I wish you well with your new Classic.

I am a very positive person and decisions on most things are pretty quick but I have wrangled internally for weeks over this one so I think I have to admit I'm not yet ready to move on.

Like you my heart always wins, the head follows, well so far anyway.

Thank you for your thoughts.

Richard, in all these thoughts about the decision, I have not taken into account that there are also restrictions on the radius of action, and possible driving bans in some important areas such as cities and villages. I fully agree with you that this circumstance must be taken into account. It's a matter of weighing things up, sometimes the laws are very idiosyncratic. For example, the new Plus Four could have the most degrees of freedom. But whether a BMW Plus 8 has the same radius of action as an older Rover Plus 8. I can't judge. And you can't rely on anything binding as far as the future is concerned. Maybe soon a thirty year old Plus 8 will be allowed to drive in areas where a BMW Plus is not for historical reasons, who knows.

What I want to say is that I fully understand your point. And then a Plus Four is still the better internal combustion engine than a maybe more emotional one, but if you are not allowed to drive it anymore. Also for this reason I can well understand that 85K for a BMW Plus 8 is a high risk if it could be affected by driving bans.

Heinz, a very good point about the investment in the Aero 8 maybe not such an attractive proposition long term once the legislators have finished penalising the ICE, who knows where the axe will fall and as you say by then my Plus 8 will be 30 years old and maybe exempt as an historic, who knows.

At around £35,000 it's certainly a lot less at stake than the Aero 8 if they do something rash legislatively.

For sure the Plus Four should be ok with whatever comes along in the near to mid term future.