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I think to S1 update that Librands did was the Superchips Bluefin jobbie, may be worth a look at their website direct and tap in the search a similar Ford V6 of the correct era
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I think to S1 update that Librands did was the Superchips Bluefin jobbie, may be worth a look at their website direct and tap in the search a similar Ford V6 of the correct era
CooperMan, from this and an earlier post in this thread I understand that you have had an S1 for a long time and also had it remapped (Superchips Bluefin?) Would you care to share your experience with the remapping? Is it worthwhile? Sheer power? Torque?
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Yes I had an S1 for around ten years and carried out many improvements for drivability and comfort, but didn't post much on TM back then
The Superchips Bluefin upgrade can be done by yourself through the OBD port as it's a handheld module that firstly copies & downloads your current map (so you can revert back) and then uploads the new one, very easy takes around 20 mins
From memory it may have perhaps removed a little flat spot at low throttle settings, but no significant difference in performance, acceleration or top end, I used to sometimes drive it (cough) properly on the second set of cams and it would bounce on the rev limiter just the same, as you know they can be surprisingly quick
Just my personal opinion, but the S1 is mapped very well for road use and I would not bother with the Bluefin again
Also worth noting that the Bluefin in a basic generic map and appears to be sold to cover multiple V6 Fords, all on the same module, but the ability to revert back to OE setup is useful
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The S1 is a great set up. I agree I wouldn't map it.
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What I read about rev hang with these engines in other cars was tied to a certain batch of throttle bodies, I was preparing myself but with my 2010 I never experienced it.
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My (very) early 2009 S2 has experienced this twice during its life. Remedied by replacing firstly the Throttle Position Sensor, then later the Idle Control Valve, likely attributable to very low mileage in some years, and "getting stuck" (to use the non-technical expression).
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I was fortunate enough to buy CooperMan’s S1 roadster which came with the Bluefin to connect to the OBD port, if anyone would like to try this. I am willing to lend it out for the price of the postage to wherever, on condition that it is a loan and is returned to me after use.
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I used to sometimes drive it (cough) properly on the second set of cams and it would bounce on the rev limiter just the same, as you know they can be surprisingly quick
Second set of cams? It didnt have variable valve timing....
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But a mass or torque as you went past 3,000 rpm.
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But a mass or torque as you went past 3,000 rpm. That was a resonant pressure peak in the inlet manifold that caused that. The cams and exhausts I developed for the racers were designed to enhance that pressure peak
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