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The EU vaccine debacle is compelling news. To watch Merkel and Macron knowingly politicise the whole thing to cover their ineptitude is laughable, were it not costing so many lives.

Von der Layen is way out of her pay grade and Merkel is responsible. None of this will play out well for the EU.

Don't worry though because Sturgeon will sort it all out soon.


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Originally Posted by SFO
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they’re exporting vaccines almost to exclusion of their own needs

We’d all feel the same if we turned up to a supermarket to find the someone else had bagged all the toilet rolls. Especially if half of them refuse to use that sort of toilet roll.



This is the myth being pedalled by Ursula ...

The vaccines are produced in the EU by private companies with contracts to honour. These vaccines are not produced by the EU, nor are they EU vaccines for the European Commission to dispense or distribute as it sees fit.

Instead of bad mouthing Astra Zeneca, and by implication, the UK (essentially the EU's complaint is that even though the UK invested upfront, provided expertise and planned early, while the EU did nothing but haggle on price and signed contracts late, AZ vaccines should be "shared fairly", thus disregarding contract rights and UK's efforts, foresight and investments), the EU should ask HMG for help via normal diplomatic channels. Berating someone you need help from publicly is not going to make them more predisposed to help you.

As for toilet rolls, it is EU member states who are stockpiling them. In any event, the analogy is flawed because you don't buy vaccines from supermarkets, and vaccines are not common everyday commodity items.


Quite right. I am fed up of hearing in the media that Xm doses were 'exported by the EU'. They were sent to the UK, or wherever, by production plants that happened to be based within the EU, whose institutions have nothing to do with their production and sale. It's sloppy and misleading reporting, rather like the inference that the population will have been fully vaccinated by the end of June when, of course, most will only have had their first jab.

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Definitely, I only visit the Malvern Arms for a virtual pint cheers and a friendly chat.

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These days, I'm finding it's far more convivial to stay in the garage (maintenance sections) with a tinny. smile smile smile




I can’t wait to enjoy a quiet pint with my mates, when allowed back in my local.
Until then, can I join you in your garage?
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Originally Posted by Budster
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Definitely, I only visit the Malvern Arms for a virtual pint cheers and a friendly chat.

Bud
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These days, I'm finding it's far more convivial to stay in the garage (maintenance sections) with a tinny. smile smile smile




I can’t wait to enjoy a quiet pint with my mates, when allowed back in my local.
Until then, can I join you in your garage?
cheers

Bud
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More than welcome. The only entry requirement is that you bring a spanner (many won't know what that is wink )


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Originally Posted by TBM
More than welcome. The only entry requirement is that you bring a spanner (many won't know what that is wink )

Is that what you use when a hammer doesn't work?


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Originally Posted by BobtheTrain
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More than welcome. The only entry requirement is that you bring a spanner (many won't know what that is wink )

Is that what you use when a hammer doesn't work?


What's a hammer? I have something similar that I call 'The Persuader', and something else referred to as the 'Brummie Screwdriver'.


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Originally Posted by TBM
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More than welcome. The only entry requirement is that you bring a spanner (many won't know what that is wink )

Is that what you use when a hammer doesn't work?


What's a hammer? I have something similar that I call 'The Persuader', and something else referred to as the 'Brummie Screwdriver'.


'Brummie Screwdriver' being a Black Country lad I always thought that was one of those fancy city cocktail drinks!


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Originally Posted by JohnHarris
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More than welcome. The only entry requirement is that you bring a spanner (many won't know what that is wink )

Is that what you use when a hammer doesn't work?


What's a hammer? I have something similar that I call 'The Persuader', and something else referred to as the 'Brummie Screwdriver'.


'Brummie Screwdriver' being a Black Country lad I always thought that was one of those fancy city cocktail drinks!


Grandad introduced me to the delights of the Brummagem Screwdriver. He did make a considerable number of Morgans, but they seem to have lasted OK....


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My mother's side of the family were brummies. My Grandad warned me that thinking of using the brummie screwdriver meant you were going to break whatever you used it on. He has been right quite often.


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