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Originally Posted by MOG 615
Sorry I can't help with the problem , but just to say a great big thank you to all you 3 wheelers for coming along and putting on such a good display.

You were easily the most exciting vehicles on the track, and two of you (I suspect you know who) were having a real ding-dong out there which was really great to watch, it only finished prematurely when one suffered an engine problem coming out of the chicane in the afternoon runs. Originally I thought his spirited driving onto the rumble strip had dislodged the front wing and the smoke emanated from the tyres, but I suspect it was rather more serious.

I will post some photos later once i have sorted through the 200+ that I took throughout the day.


It was a great day for sure, and yes, a bit of friendly close formation lappage is always good fun! In fact the cloud of smoke was indeed caused by the offside front tyre deflecting so much under load that the tread itself (a more period look tyre with more obvious circumferential grooves that can grab onto things) got wedged under the side trailing edge of the mudguard. It certainly made for quite a spectacle and as I was always looking in the mirrors to make sure we were together, I too assumed that the engine had thrown in the towel. Fortunately - and as a huge relief to the young combatant as the car was his fathers' - once slowed, the mudfguard released its vice-like grip and things returned to normal. Game over for the close formation flying however..... smile He needs more pressure in the tyre next time out.

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Just a thought - the right hand plug lead can get trapped under the steering column if it is not well clipped out of the way. This will damage the insulation and might cause misfiring at low revs. Misfiring will send unburnt fuel in to the glowing exhaust pipes where it ignites and burns causing the blackening. Maybe???

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I’ve not had a chance to work on the car tonight but I will do the easy and now obvious Lambda-Switchover test, as well as a Protune interrogation. Clag in the injector making it stick open sounds very plausible to me, as do some of the other options. Fortunately I’d due at KH in 3 weeks, so I will try to fix it myself beforehand, but if I fail....

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Originally Posted by skullmog
Hi Phil good to see you yesterday! i would swap lambda's over and see if problem changes sides!!! sounds to me thats where the fault is .


Skullmog wins the prize - top of the class Sir!! Seems that a track-days' worth of engine vibes had shooken the connector for the RHS lambda sensor loose - it was still visually 'connected', but probaly a few mm's out. I'd already removed LHS Lambda ready for the swap, so I switched sides regardless and went for a test drive. Initially that stuttering problem was still present (now on LHS pipe), but it soon cleared and we're broadly back to where we should be. I guess that loose connection prevented the Lambda from sending reliable, workable signals and it was only as the mapping moved onto Open Loop that the car ran correctly again. Closed Loop wasn't talking too well. There must have been a lot of clag build-up in that lambda as it took a while to clear and it's still very slightly evident, although not that you'd really notice.

So I am planning on popping a couple of new lambda's in there just in case.

Thanks for all your help folks, and there's a beer waiting for you Kev when we next get to a pub somewhere :-)

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cheers Phil second time i got something correct this year crazy2

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Originally Posted by skullmog
cheers Phil second time i got something correct this year crazy2


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Originally Posted by rcmatt
a stopped clock is right twice a day



Or if it's stopped between 12 and 1 it will be right 3 times on the day when daylight saving ends......


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Did you get a resolution to this issue Ringa ?

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Originally Posted by nippymog
Did you get a resolution to this issue Ringa ?


Indeed - seems the Lambda sensor 4-pin connector rattled loose enough to lose comms, so RHS injector was not seeing anything coming back. Filled up with very rich-running gunk, so when moved to LHS exhaust, the problem moved too initially, but cleared thereafter. Have decided to buy 2x new Bosch sensors (which arrived yesterday), so that will be a job for the weekend hopefully. Car drove very well once problem cleared (even on the original lambda's), as it clearly liked its Italian Tune-Up at Goodwood:-)

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