Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Morgan Plus Four, Supersport & Plus Six (CX & CXV Generation Vehicles) Faulty radiator

At some stage, the factory realised the problem as my car ,which was built in Nov 2020 had the modification done at birth!!
If you look at the underneath of the plate under the oil cooler if there is the head of a bolt about 35mm from the side edge, then this is the fixing of the “bobbin” which is the modification! No bolt— then it’s not done!

My repaired radiator has two bolts.

Not realistic. The high price comes about from making things in tiny volumes and not product quality. Nothing that is hand made will ever match the quality of mass manufactured products. You are paying for rarity.

In any event, its made here in the UK so you cant expect German quality standards!

Not realistic. Probably not. But also, as Jens infers, not likely to be acceptable to many of MMC's target new customers. The sort of issue that has plagued Lotus et al for years.

A very considerable measure of Morgan's success will be not how much they go wrong, but how well - (and how seamlessly for the end user) they put things right.

Morgan can't afford another costly warranty disaster like the 2012+ Three Wheeler but it seems like quality is still an issue.

Since my first 4/4 in 2004 and this new plus four ,improvement has been huge.
All small problems were rapidly solved.i sold back the 3 previous cars almost at the same price
They were bought.They are expensive but you dont lose much and they are
Hand made.But i agree that a Porsche amateur will not like a Morgan.
Once i let a friend who have a 911 drive my 4/4 he was afraid.

Doesnt suit my argument but the Lotus comment isnt correct. The days when it was Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious are long gone helped by Toyota mechanicals and manufacturing much the same car for 20 years. My Elise was the most reliable car I have ever had and that includes the family Mrecs , Volvos etc. Maybe part of the reason was assembly on a proper assembly line unlike Morgan. The Lotus rep is a bit like "Triumph motorcycles always leak oil." because they did so in the 50s.

Comments on this forum dont support your last sentence

Here's an end to the CX radiator leaks, a 3/4" spanner after each trip out and you just tighten down the header tank...sorted !

If you buy a new model Morgan you are by definition an alpha or beta tester (to use software development analogy). This was absolutely the case with our early 2012 M3W and seems to be the case with these very complex CX models. Morgan simply don't have the budget for all the fine tuning big players do on their vehicles in the prolonged pre-production testing.

The dealer network is smaller now so the management of problems is tough and I suspect frustrating to people new to the marque. At the pricing now being asked, I wonder about the viability of all this.

JMD the same was true and possibly even more so with the Aero. I see a better resolution path now as previously the trad was keeping the business afloat whilst the Aero was the new shiny thing. The volume on the Aero never really grew enough to make it critical to change things? The CX on the other hand is the total company volume and so the company cannot afford to delay development? So I see a more positive development program for the CX however you have to order things in volume as a manufacturer. If you order two seats or just batches of 10 you are not going to get any realistic price or interest from suppliers so there remains a challenge in the upgrade cycle they can work to. I think it is important that they communicate, retrofit changes that have been identified and that the customers keep them honest?

Lets stick with Beta - in the software industry Alpha means that when it goes wrong it tends to blow up as opposed to just come to a halt. Mind you a few of the Plus6 have been put there