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Hi Recently my original MAF died after about 77000 miles, the original Lucas ones (as far as can tell) are no longer available. I sourced a replacement from FleaBay, the voltage trim screw did absolutely nothing , so it was sent back . I then purchased another(Britpart) one. I set the Voltage to 1.8VDC which resulted in a super rich mixture. I eventually got a second hand one which works fine.
As a result of this I would advise all members to build up a stock of original parts for any defunct engine EFI System.
I have decided to remove the original system & replace it with an aftermarket system, the front runners are :- Canams, Emerald and Megasquirt, so prior to fully committing over the winter, I was wondering if any other members had went down this path and what is recommended & why. I know there will be a power increase but that is a secondary benefit . I also know a lot of criticism around Megasquirt is reliability - if I decide on this,I will be buying from a company that builds the ECU & provides a full kit ,
Thanks for any insight you can provide
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Alan
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Was that the one off eBay fit £200? I was looking at that one. I have a cheapo one for the mot. It passes emissions but runs rubbish otherwise so I refit the original one after the mot.
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I had a friend plug his laptop in and what it was doing was anything but control the fuel mix, it wasn’t £200 just below £100 , the first one was a sand casting ??????
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Might be worth having a chat to these people before you make your decision. Rover V8 ECU specialists. Tornado Systems
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Tornado systems only deals with the original Lucas stuff which essentially 80’s technology. MOTs are not shifting the goalposts but the strictness of enforcement has definitely moved up a cog. The only drawback I have been able to establish is , there’s something going through parliament which is critically looking into “Car Modifications” if you install aftermarket gear on your car such as an ECU ( Brakes, Suspension, Shocks , Panhards, 5 link etc etc ) please refer to :- https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...ing-vehicle-standards#tackling-tamperingBut as long as you don’t use a Morgan Dealer there’s not much chance of them finding the brain. To reiterate what I’m looking for is reviews on the various aftermarket EFI systems
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Interesting about those Tornado folks. Only about 30 miles from me. Might warrant a visit…..
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Tornado systems only deals with the original Lucas stuff which essentially 80’s technology. Have you spoken to them? I thought they covered the engine right up to later iterations and they also work with standalone aftermarket ECU's. I talked to them when I installed an Omex ECU in my 4/4 but as they specialise in the Rover V8 I didn't go forward with them.
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Alan ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2018/10/24/IMG_8822.jpg) I got rid of the lucas system from my +8 1985 Flapper,and replaced it with the Canems system ,it is easy to use and you can alter any of the mapping fuel and ignition (Removed the distributor and fitted a trigger wheel and coil packs). have a look at the website lloydspecialistdevelopments. If you want any more information you can contact me and I will try to answer your questions David Byrne
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Tornado systems only deals with the original Lucas stuff which essentially 80’s technology. They work with Lucas, Lucas/Sagems and Bosch systems
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I have decided to remove the original system & replace it with an aftermarket system, the front runners are :- Canams, Emerald and Megasquirt, Alan
There is an interesting article by a TVR owner about his journey from moving from 14Cux to Emerald (lots of rolling road sessions required) to GEMS (not for the faint hearted).
Brian
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