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Machine Mart are a good source of reasonable price tools, ratchet ring spanners can be very useful on shocker nuts as they don't need to be overtightened (you should just be able to rotate the top rubbers by hand)


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Originally Posted by Arwyn Williams
For doing site work on heavy plant, I used to use a set of Aldi metric spanners and a socket set/torque wrench.

Really good quality and put up with all sorts of abuse . No hardship if you lost one either as they were cheap as chips to replace

Heard good reports about Halfords Advanced Pro tools as well

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Thanks Arwyn, I'll go with Halfords as they are local and have stock.


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Originally Posted by CooperMan
Machine Mart are a good source of reasonable price tools, ratchet ring spanners can be very useful on shocker nuts as they don't need to be overtightened (you should just be able to rotate the top rubbers by hand)


Thanks Jon, I went with Halfords as they are local. useful tip about the top rubbers, much appreciated.


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I have AVO Rutherford adjustable shocks front and rear and dont have a problem with bottoming out. Mine were from Tim Ayers at New Elms and are easy to fit yourself.


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OK. Fronts first. Jack up, onto axle stands, no need to take wheels off. Turn wheel outward. Top and bottom nuts easily accessible, both take a 9/16" spanner. With damper off, which takes some wiggling, access to kingpin grease nipple is easy so in goes some grease. Due to the longer bottom bushes which have an internal sleeve, it is very difficult to get the bottom bush onto the stud as there is insufficient clearacne between the end of the stud and the track rod. Solution is somewhat counterintuitive (well to me it was) - turn wheel inwards, increasing gap, fitting is then easy. The top stud of the AVO damper is supplied with two thin (about 4mm) nuts instead of a nyloc nut, so used those and snugged them up to lock. Nothing overtightened to allow the bushes to move. Oh, and then I had to take it off and start again - as I realise that fitting it with the adjuster wheel facing inwards results in the grease nipple being obstructed - no gun would get in the small gap remaining. So I refitted it with the adjuster facing the disc - still reachable. Repeat on other side. Quick test drive - much plusher!



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I am about to do the same and have a set of front only AVO's on their way to me along with brake reaction stays, all from Sifab. I have rudimentary tools, no 14mm, 20mm sockets or ring spanners, no torque wrench and not much clue so the above post is a godsend and Simon also provided some valuable tips. I'm hoping that those of you who have experience in this can recommend a torque wrench and sockets/spanners, I have some 1/2 inch sockets already and so that size would be convenient but tell me if I need 3/8 for example. I do not intend this to become a hobby and so will not need the wrench and sockets to last me forever, just a decent and dependable brand is all I will need. Why am I doing this? For the interest and challenge and to keep me from tinkering with something I can really bugger-up.


Well yesterday I managed to fit new AVO adjustable dampers and Brake Reaction Bars, all by myself. It went well as a result of all the good advice offered up. JohnV6's tip about the folding card to mark where to drill the chassis for the BRB was great as was Simon Hall's advice on supporting the kingpin plate from below and so it all went without incident. My signature foolishness kicked in as I discarded the large washer that holds the lower damper bush in place thinking that the small washer would be sufficient, a test drive showed the bush migrating off it's shaft and so up went the car and on went the large washer. Despite Nigel's note I also managed to fit one of them the wrong way obscuring the grease nipple, but I'm an old hand now and that was swapped around in no time at all.

Another couple of drives were made to decide what settings to adjust the dampers to and I have settled on 2 clicks up from zero for now, Zero was a little soft and 4 clicks up was a little firm. The AVO dampers really work well and demonstrated what the trad Morgan suspension was capable of, the front end seems to be better integrated with the back end, the car is less troubled by potholes and rough surfaces and feels more comfortable - a BIG win.

I would say that fitting the BRBs has made at least the same improvement and perhaps more so. the steering has tightened up and the accuracy improved by a good measure, the car feels more confident over rougher surfaces and under braking, the understeer on lift off and has diminished, the car tracks better and driving is a lot more relaxed. I would say that, for me, this is the single most important modification I have made and would recommend ti to everyone who owns a trad, it really makes a big improvement to the handling.


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Originally Posted by Kevcaster

I would say that fitting the BRBs has made at least the same improvement and perhaps more so. the steering has tightened up and the accuracy improved by a good measure, the car feels more confident over rougher surfaces and under braking, the understeer on lift off and has diminished, the car tracks better and driving is a lot more relaxed. I would say that, for me, this is the single most important modification I have made and would recommend ti to everyone who owns a trad, it really makes a big improvement to the handling.


Agree that BRBs are one of the best modifications for a Trad. The name brake reaction bar is misleading as the main benefit for me was a tightening up of the front suspension so the front end didnt shake about on bad surfaces with the added benefit of more steering feel too.

Nothing in fact to do with braking though Im sure that there is a benefit when braking too, especially as I feel more confident in driving the car faster on less than perfect roads with BRBs fitted.


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Originally Posted by RobCol
Originally Posted by Kevcaster

I would say that fitting the BRBs has made at least the same improvement and perhaps more so. the steering has tightened up and the accuracy improved by a good measure, the car feels more confident over rougher surfaces and under braking, the understeer on lift off and has diminished, the car tracks better and driving is a lot more relaxed. I would say that, for me, this is the single most important modification I have made and would recommend ti to everyone who owns a trad, it really makes a big improvement to the handling.


Agree that BRBs are one of the best modifications for a Trad. The name brake reaction bar is misleading as the main benefit for me was a tightening up of the front suspension so the front end didnt shake about on bad surfaces with the added benefit of more steering feel too.

Nothing in fact to do with braking though Im sure that there is a benefit when braking too, especially as I feel more confident in driving the car faster on less than perfect roads with BRBs fitted.


Yes to all this, I found the tracking benefit was apparent under braking too and especially on rough roads


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I can confirm everything, the BRBs are a good measurement. Probably the name comes from the fact that without BRBs the whole frame of the front axle always tilts slightly forward when braking.


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I am convinced of the BRB’s advantages but worry about tyre rub on full lock on a 4/4. I am sure my local MoT man would snag them for that.

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Originally Posted by HJF
I am convinced of the BRB’s advantages but worry about tyre rub on full lock on a 4/4. I am sure my local MoT man would snag them for that.


Had them fitted to our 4/4 12 months ago. No sign of tyre rub on the BRBs. I am running 165/80/15 tyres.


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