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Indeed, might be the best solutoin. Only concern is wether they melt with the heat from the silencer(s) under the running board. I think not, however. Then you have PEEK screws, that have a melting point of 180 degrees C. An M3 countersu nylonnk should do. Inspected mine yesterday, SS screws with anti-coorosive paste. No visible corrosion after fitting them half a year ago. But if corrosion eventually appears, PEEK or nylon screws with nylon washers and then Nylocks underneath. I hav not located M3 nylon nuts so far, guess SS Nylock and nylon washer is ok. That will be the next (and hopefully final) step. I would also be tempted if I had to do the job again, to fit nylon screws and nuts plus washers if needed. The natural stiffness of nylon threads means that locking nuts likely wouldn't be needed. Available down to 2mm below. I agree that heat wouldn't be an issue here either. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.westfieldfasteners.co.uk/Images3/Main_Images_Published/Slotted-Pan-Machine-Screws-ISO-1580-DIN-85-in-Nylon.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://www.westfieldfasteners.co.uk/Images3/Main_Images_Published/Full-Hex-Nuts-Standard-Pitch-ISO-4032-DIN-934-in-Nylon.jpg) Yes, but countersunk screws, to avoid bulges in the rubbers strips..They are available if one searches a bit. As I said, I fitted SS about half a year ago. I took off the rubbers the other day, no visible corrosion present so far. However there was moisture under thee rear end of the strips, in spite of the car being dry for about three weeks. I guess the water almost never dries out underneath the strips. I will loosen some screws and inspect more closely today, report will follow...
Robbie the Norseman 2004 V6 Roadster Sherwood green
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Robbie, when I re-fitted the rubber inserts I first filled the alloy channel with Waxoil so after the rubber is squeezed in there are no voids left for water to collect, bit messy to work with, but worth doing
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Robbie, when I re-fitted the rubber inserts I first filled the alloy channel with Waxoil so after the rubber is squeezed in there are no voids left for water to collect, bit messy to work with, but worth doing Good idea, thanks. However, I already bought ACF50, so I will apply several coats and see what happens the next months. I intended to inspect under the screws today, but I just got home after a looong day, so it will have to wait until tomorow.
Robbie the Norseman 2004 V6 Roadster Sherwood green
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I removed my running board strips today and found the steel bolt heads rusted away to almost nothing, the nuts were fine having had a good coat of Waxoil or similar. there was no corrosion underneath the strips and the holes in the wing show no signs of degradation at all. I'm going to try this suggestion and have ordered 3mm nylon nuts and bolts from Westfield, I'll fit them next week and let you know how I get on.
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Kevin
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I sourced the 3mm x 20mm nylon bolts from Westfield and have fitted the running board rubber strips back onto the Morgan using the nylon bolts as positioning and anchoring while 3M double sided neoprene tape does the job of fixing the aluminium channel to the bodywork. I may make a small adjustment and fit 4mm bolts as the 3mm are fairly light and the square holes will just accept the 4mm size. The old bolts were 3.5mm and I did not find this size in nylon only 3 or 4mm, I went with 3mm but in hindsight should have gone up a size. I re-fitted the rubber strips using lithium grease as a lubricant and a trim tool as the muscle, it was quite easy..
Update on this, the 4mm bolt heads are 0.6mm higher and would cause the rubber strip to bump a little more when fitted and so I'll stick with the 3mm bolts.
Kevin
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I found a solution at the Shuttleworth collection with the added benefit of cleaning the soles of your shoes. 
JohnV6 2022 CX Plus Four 2025 MG ZS EV aka Trigger
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Excellent find John! 
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I found a solution at the Shuttleworth collection with the added benefit of cleaning the soles of your shoes.  Nice, looks like a piece of toast - might try that
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The Roadster had bulging tread strips and I was planning to replace the rusted nuts and bolts exactly as you have. But with silencers under each side it would have been a difficult job so procrastinated until I bought the Plus 8, it has no tread strips.
I do like John's idea of a strip of doormat, I wonder if one could replace the rubber with a thin strip of rubber backed matting?
Peter, 66, 2016 Porsche Boxster S No longer driving Tarka, the 2014 Plus 8...
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