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It is not so much weight, John.
In 2013 my Morgan garage weighted the black painted spoked rim as the 2010 Roadster sport used it at 8,6 Kg without tyre. This weight is only a few 100 gr away from the Morgan alluminum wheel.
And the 4/4 rim is more narrow and should be even lighter.
The rim of the 2011 Plus4 Supersport weights more than 11,5 Kg including and because of the hub adapter.
The "Image-wheel" rim of the 4/4 80th anniversary should be about 8Kg including their bolt on to center hub adapter.
BTW the Morgan 5 bolt on hub weights about 2Kg more than the hub for the center spoke wheels. The exact numbers are somewhere in the nirvana of an older computer but my garage did measure it for me.
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Since I'm still thinking about changing from wires to steels, I was wondering if anyone actually changed to the Billet 46 wheels by Image Wheels?
I asked at my dealer if I could switch to the Morgan steel wheels, but they said it would be extremely costly because of all the work and parts involved.
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The issue is hubs: you need metal wheels with splined fit hubs. Jays of this place did this on his Roadster many years ago, Williams sourced the Minilite wheels with splined hubs.
I'm certain that Image wheels would produce Billet 46 wheels with splined hubs, but it would be a custom order and not cheap.
But it would look so cool!!
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The issue is hubs: you need metal wheels with splined fit hubs. Jays of this place did this on his Roadster many years ago, Williams sourced the Minilite wheels with splined hubs.
I'm certain that Image wheels would produce Billet 46 wheels with splined hubs, but it would be a custom order and not cheap.
But it would look so cool!! jays wheels were bolt on , and Williams got the offset wrong so needed spacers and longer wheel studs Ask Ivormog who owns it now….
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Since I'm still thinking about changing from wires to steels, I was wondering if anyone actually changed to the Billet 46 wheels by Image Wheels?
I asked at my dealer if I could switch to the Morgan steel wheels, but they said it would be extremely costly because of all the work and parts involved. How about these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192892004900?hash=item2ce9426a24:g:1~oAAOSwiYlaP-DW
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Hi Peter, I received a quote from image. It would be about 3200 pounds for 5 wheels. (16”)
Expensive, but I’m still tempted. I hoped to hear from others who went this route and maybe see them fitted on a Morgan.
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Hi Peter, I received a quote from image. It would be about 3200 pounds for 5 wheels. (16”)
Expensive, but I’m still tempted. I hoped to hear from others who went this route and maybe see them fitted on a Morgan. Are these Billet wheels ? ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2022/02/08/AE20B6AF-0F9C-415B-919E-51541AEAAD60.jpg)
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Having seen a new Plus Four with minilites at KH i looked at Image Alloys. As said not cheap but there are options for wire wheel centres
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The Morgan 5 stud disc wheels are made by Fondmetal, in Italy.
To fit the Billet wheels on a car that has previously had spoked wheels means either custom wheels, with a splined hub, or new hubs from Morgan. I'd be tempted to go for custom wheels as that means you can always go back to wires...
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I dealt with this issue a lot 10 years ago. If you choose an aluminum wheel then an additional adapter for the central lock is honestly no fun. With the Plus4 Supersport, the overall system was simply much too heavy. Even with Image Wheels you need way too many Kg extra for such an adapter. I would basically decide even if I could no longer switch back and forth and let the Morgan hubs exchange. Subsequently, I would select a wheel that is manufactured really precise according to exact specifications of the off set. Everything else is kind of bogus as it is exactly the other way around big bogus if you order a new Plus Four with spoked wheels, because there is the central locking on the 5 bolts hub additionally screwed. All not really elegant and purposeful.
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