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I'd certainly give it a try - a float is a float after all. I'm sure it can be adapted if not a perfect match.

Especially onsidering the Morgan Spares sender is $145 exchange and the Melvyn Rutter one is £120 plus postage. The MR one also looks like a generic one, rather than specific to Morgan so there may be cheaper options out there.


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The MR sender has the number stamped TB9006 - 000 on it.

If you google the number, you can pick up a new one for around £30 (same as a Series Land Rover)


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Originally Posted by TBM
I'd certainly give it a try - a float is a float after all. I'm sure it can be adapted if not a perfect match.

Especially onsidering the Morgan Spares sender is $145 exchange and the Melvyn Rutter one is £120 plus postage. The MR one also looks like a generic one, rather than specific to Morgan so there may be cheaper options out there.

Just be wary with generic sender's that it's not for early moving iron instruments circa pre 70's. On these the highest resistance corresponded to full. The later bi-metallic type required reverse.

If in doubt the early type gave instant fuel reading when ignition turned on and didn't require voltage regulator.

To my mind the change to bi-metallic was a step in the wrong direction accepting they gave a damped reading. There was something re-assuring about an instant fuel reading and seeing the needle jump around meant you surely had some fuel in the tank as it sloshed around smile


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Yes, certainly sticker shock with the prices - I've still got to find a roof and repaint the car (as well as a host of other stuff , some yet to be discovered I'm sure smile )

Phil, your Google search abilities are better than mine, I found one place selling them here but I've decided to risk getting a float and replacement gasket and hope it's a uniform size.

I also scraped the paint of the original sender and found the Smiths Serial number TB 1114 / 028 in case that's of use to anyone.

As always, thank you to everyone for insights and help and my first Morgan meet up was hugely inspiring to keep at it !


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Originally Posted by DaiBach

I also scraped the paint of the original sender and found the Smiths Serial number TB 1114 / 028 in case that's of use to anyone.

Looks a bit like the very early type used in classic Mini's prior to the bayonet style fixing, may be worth searching Mini parts suppliers in the US


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That reference is not listed on the current 'Smiths' site, but maybe the similar numbers in the range may help. Scroll down to the TB 1114 section, which refers to Mini as well as Land Rover and others

https://www.smiths-instruments.co.uk/tank-senders


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Originally Posted by DaiBach

I also scraped the paint of the original sender and found the Smiths Serial number TB 1114 / 028 in case that's of use to anyone.

Looks a bit like the very early type used in classic Mini's prior to the bayonet style fixing, may be worth searching Mini parts suppliers in the US

Like many my first serious road car was an 850 Mini YDB 933, 1963 I believe. Question is Jon, did the earliest in 1959 have a moving iron fuel gauge?


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Yep, as I said above, a Land Rover series 3 one will work - they also used Smiths gauges and had a voltage regulator.

The generic one from Rimmers is identical to the MR one (jiust £100 cheaper)

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I would try to replace the float before trying new ones that 'look the same'

When the sender failed in mine I bought 2 different ones that looked the same, but neither were the same. That presumably is why Smiths had all the different suffixes for different models
They work but the calibration is way out. .

In the end I've bought a Spiyda gauge wizard to balance the calibration (not fitted yet!)


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I also scraped the paint of the original sender and found the Smiths Serial number TB 1114 / 028 in case that's of use to anyone.

Looks a bit like the very early type used in classic Mini's prior to the bayonet style fixing, may be worth searching Mini parts suppliers in the US

Like many my first serious road car was an 850 Mini YDB 933, 1963 I believe. Question is Jon, did the earliest in 1959 have a moving iron fuel gauge?

I don't have access to my tech books for a few days, but, IIRC '59 to '64 - '65 had the six bolt mounting, but did use a 10v voltage stabiliser earthed to the back of the speedo


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