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Adoption to change follows a pattern: 1/3 will love it, 1/3 will hate it, 1/3 can be convinced. I'm in the top half.
Formerly and Still '06032' 2017 M3W, 2008 Ural Patrol, 2021 Vespa 'Racing 60' Other stuff....
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What is the drive train ? Are they still using the badly engineered compensators ? Ford 1.5l Dragon three cylinder engine No compensator required as there are not the torque spikes of the S&S Mazda 5 peed gearbox Prop shaft Bevel box no longer by Quaife and with redesigned internal gears Same toothed belt and sprocket to rear wheel. Rear tyre 195/65/15 Drum rear brake - apparently they tested both disk and drum which are about the same weight and cost. The test driver feedback was they preferred drums as the disk was "a bit bitey". Why does it need a prop shaft and a toothed belt ? The toothed belt is a real disappointment given the increase in power and (I assume) weight over the previous model. Drum brakes are cheaper than discs.
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It needs a belt as otherwise, if you want the rear wheel to be central you need a prop-shaft that is offset way over to one side which leads to other compromises such as a much wider cabin or asymmetric seats where only one of the seats is wide enough for an adult or you need to make the seats high enough to be over the prop-shaft. I'd say any problems with the M3W prop-shaft-bevel-box-toothed belt are much more connected with the implementation of the arrangement than the arrangement itself. It's very interesting that the new bevel box comes from a different manufacturer. The new car does look good in the photos and videos. Don't think I'll be rushing out to buy one though.
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Steven sold: M3W, Aeromax,V6, 4/4 4seater now: +fourLM62
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My Verdict Paul, I went to the launch with much scepticism. With several Three Wheelers and a +4 in the stable already I wondered where the new 3W sat. It was an incredibly good launch evening, clambering over the cars then gave an idea of what it was all about. However as we drove back to The Abbey Hotel afterwards to have a few beers I was unconvinced. Having been invited back to the factory again first thing Friday morning we were allowed free rein to look at the car in more depth. The sheer technical input was evident in abundance, the option list massive. Pick your use, pick your spec and off you go into the sunset ! I suddenly found myself falling in love with it both styling wise and technically. It has an appeal to me but in a different way to my other Morgan's. I totally get the design concept now and whilst it may not suit everyone with such quirky styling it is definitely a Morgan 3 for the modern world. It is destined to be a true Morgan Tourer. Good Luck Morgan Motor Co with the superbly named Morgan Super 3. Have to say though we still enjoy Touring in our 1934 Matchless SuperSports which we used to drive up from Somerset to the event. Ian Parkinson ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2022/02/26/274671660_1903089376560921_5501425156008394927_n.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2022/02/26/IMG_0655.jpg)
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Ian Morgan Family 1929 ( KTW 1100cc ) Morgan S/S 1934 Morgan F4 M3W 2012 Morgan +4 T 1991
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Good to see your views on the Morgan Super 3, Ian. I can see a great deal of excellence in the design and the update to modern standards is really impressive. I have always regretted selling-on my M3W: it gave me (and the family) a huge amount of fun - especially our French Albert Ball trips. [img]https://hosting.photobucket.co...=960&height=720&fit=bounds[/img]The 4/4 that replaced it was an elegant car but it took up too much space in the workshop and was a pain to get into and out of that space. The new Super 3 will only just go through the doors, but the rest of the shape is good for access. The fact that it is a more weather-proof design would allow it to stay outside more. Are there any pictures of it with the full windscreen? Plenty of food for thought… Tim
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From the pre release teaser pictures I was skeptical, but now having seen the pictures upon release, I think it better than I epxected it to be. The front is fine bar the cover for the steering rack. That is the bit that bothers me, but the rest looks good. On the sides I am undecided about the barge boards and out board luggage racks, The rear looks good and to me definately links back to older models. Overall its a thumbs up from me! Not that is worth much as very happy with my 5 speeder!
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Thanks Ian - good assessment. That extra width is a bit of an issue for folks like me with 1930s garages. I wonder if they tried the side radiators further back behind the front wheels on lock, which might have enabled a slimmer track... although that may have compromised the side blade luggage system... Next: I wonder how much the bevel box upgrade will be for M3W5sps (and what will we abbreviate Super 3s to... MS3?  )
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I am quite keen to understand what the specs of the EV version will be and when it will be available.
And on the other hand, would really like to hear how this Super 3 sounds - is it even close to the character of the old V-twin…
But overall, I quite like what Morgan has done!
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Almost 88 Years have passed by in a flash. Vintage meets modern ! The First F2 produced by Morgan in 1935 takes a cursory look at the MORGAN SUPER 3 This lovely F2 is owned by Paul Isaacs. Ian Parkinson ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2022/02/27/20220225_091158-2.jpg)
Ian Morgan Family 1929 ( KTW 1100cc ) Morgan S/S 1934 Morgan F4 M3W 2012 Morgan +4 T 1991
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