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What people are suggesting is that the driver who cut me up so deliberately and dangerously won't cause an accident in the future resulting in injury or death, and therefore shouldn't be reported. I beg to differ.
John
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I'd be handing the SD card over to the Polis tomorrow for a possible prosecution, the idiot. I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for a Grey/silver Chelsea tractor SB66 XTF  This is the only way to get these hooligans off the road, it's not everyone that has the courage to follow it up  . We are talking about saving lives here, not "snitching" boys.
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In Switzerland you can report any other driver without need of any camera footage. For example, if you're driving in town at 50 km/h, and someone passes you, it clearly means he is driving faster than 50 km/h and therefore over the limit. A simple call or email saying the place, time and car model, colour and plate number means a direct fine to this person. Swiss are all “vigilantes”.
I can’t confirm this is still working that way. Have the Swiss laws changed? I don’t know… Maybe someone living in Switzerland reading this can confirm it still goes on like this?
In my personal case, if there is no accident or real terrible situation, I won’t use my dashcam footage to report a stupid driver. But I totally understand the point of view of those who would. The only question is: where is the limit to consider a stupid driving dangerous enough to the point of reporting it? That would be the debate, IMHO.
This is how I think today. Maybe tomorrow if I see a stupid driver doing such dangerous thing that I would report him, even if he doesn’t provoke an accident in front of me.
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Snitches get stitches where I am from!
Our scuffers are singularly useless at doing anything apart from prosecuting motorists going 3 mph above the limit. If we have a problem, we have to deal with it ourselves.
My cousin was able to find out who grassed him to the scuffers ...the grasser ame back from his hols to find a ton of chicken dermot dumped in his drive
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In Switzerland you can report any other driver without need of any camera footage. For example, if you're driving in town at 50 km/h, and someone passes you, it clearly means he is driving faster than 50 km/h and therefore over the limit. A simple call or email saying the place, time and car model, colour and plate number means a direct fine to this person. Swiss are all “vigilantes”.
I can’t confirm this is still working that way. Have the Swiss laws changed? I don’t know… Maybe someone living in Switzerland reading this can confirm it still goes on like this?
In my personal case, if there is no accident or real terrible situation, I won’t use my dashcam footage to report a stupid driver. But I totally understand the point of view of those who would. The only question is: where is the limit to consider a stupid driving dangerous enough to the point of reporting it? That would be the debate, IMHO.
This is how I think today. Maybe tomorrow if I see a stupid driver doing such dangerous thing that I would report him, even if he doesn’t provoke an accident in front of me.
The footage that the OP showed was incredibly dangerous undercutting and weaving and he very nearly hit the Morgan and a van, I can't go with the Swiss side of things though. Our village is a 20mph zone and has a lot of young children and often horse riders on their way to their paddocks. A month back we had a rider fall off her horse due to a young village idiot out in his Daddies V8 Beamer, he was caught on camera the next day by a friend of the riders and he is no longer driving. I don't have a dashcam no desire for one and have never reported anyone, but having seen the OP's footage I definitely would have done.
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If we have a problem, we have to deal with it ourselves.
My cousin was able to find out who grassed him to the scuffers ...the grasser ame back from his hols to find a ton of chicken dermot dumped in his drive
Arwyn
It sounds as though your cousin is not a very law abiding citizen.
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I saw it too Richard! Before he had to take it out from the media.  And this Range Rover weights 2,5 tons! If he had hit John's Morgan, it would have been a total disaster... So, I agree with you two in this particular case. I would report him if I could.  To explain better my point of view, and without the willing to create any polemic here with the example I'm about to describe  IMHO what this driver did was to me the same as if he shot at John, but missed him... just nearly missed him…  Some may say “Hey! He didn’t hit him! No one was injured! So, why reporting him?” Then, as per my example: if someone shoot a firearm against you, but he misses, wouldn’t you call the Police anyway and tell them “That guy shot at me!”  Because I remember pretty well the video, and that was a very close call at incredibly high speed… 
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The problem is, as I see it, we are all guilty of doing stupid and sometimes what seem to others dangerous maneuvers. There is a quote from a quite famous book that seems very apt, to me anyway. “He that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone at her.”
Not sure society needs this sort of policing. But each to their own.
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If we have a problem, we have to deal with it ourselves.
My cousin was able to find out who grassed him to the scuffers ...the grasser ame back from his hols to find a ton of chicken dermot dumped in his drive
Arwyn
It sounds as though your cousin is not a very law abiding citizen. Handy lad in a fight though. Last time he got arrested it took 6 scuffers to get him on the ground, it would have been 7 but he knocked one clean out!
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If we have a problem, we have to deal with it ourselves.
My cousin was able to find out who grassed him to the scuffers ...the grasser ame back from his hols to find a ton of chicken dermot dumped in his drive
Arwyn
It sounds as though your cousin is not a very law abiding citizen. Handy lad in a fight though. Last time he got arrested it took 6 scuffers to get him on the ground, it would have been 7 but he knocked one clean out! You are clearly proud of him 
Keith 2013 narrow bodied + 4 Ruby.
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