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Hi all, my inaugural post and it relates to the DVSA recall!

I too was called by Oakmere (dealer I purchased from) with all the above that has been mentioned.

They informed me that all dealers had a meeting with MMC this afternoon to decide what is to be done and when.

My guess is it will be a replacement master cylinder. Bleed brakes, remove MC, fit new one, refill and bleed system and test. Probably four to six hours work.

I understand from the DVSA web site it affects 1274 cars from late 2019 onwards; in other words, all CX platform cars.

My concern is how long it will take to get this work done. The dealer network is small and how will they prioritise the work? I guess it will be oldest first.

Having only owned my new Plus Four for five weeks and having many trips and events planned, this is a real disappointment.

The smaller but very valuable dealers (I can think of four) they binned as they weren't prepared to carry large stocks of cars will be smiling at this, Karma is a shared experience.

I wish you CX boys and girls well for a timely resolution, this is bad timing in the extreme.

But will your insurance be valid?

If the DVSA figure is correct, then in back-of-an-envelope figures, that's 1274 x (say 5 hrs at say £70) = say £450K. Then add the trailering costs, say 1274 x (say £150 twice) = say another £350K. Oh and loss of sales in the meantime, loss of goodwill and brand reputation. If I was Massimo I would be very very worried about this.

£70 a hour… a lot of Morgan dealers now charge double that.. loss of sales and goodwill is the main problem, expect this and the radiator issues some people where on their 5th might be the last straw for some CX owners, they might regret selling their trads.

I have always felt with the Aero and CX cars they are nearly to complex for Morgan to make without issues long term.. one just has to look at the troubles Aeros have had, in contrast the trad is a very simple car with little to go wrong.

Merc brake problem on a slightly larger scale

I suspect there will have been a conversation between Steve, Massimo and the brake Master cylinder supplier, before we all go jumping to unknown conclusions and possible costings unless you already know who will be footing the bill of course ?

What MMC does not need right now is more negativity being spread at this very difficult moment - just saying

After working for over 30 years in the motor industry, for a vehicle manufacturer, I cannot remember a STOP RECALL. Safety Recalls and Service Measures, yes, but not a stop recall.

To introduce such a serious measure there must have been some incidents which have resulted in accidents. Is this a general issue with Frenos Iruna brake components or is it specific to Morgan? Either way it will create many headaches for Customers, Dealers and MMC alike.

The fundamental question is going to be how quickly can the recall work be completed even when parts have been sourced? As of today 8th June I was advised by MMC there are no parts in stock, presumably any they may have are deemed to be faulty, and with an average lead time for service work between 8 and 12 weeks we can kiss goodbye to our summer of fun in the MOG! :-(

Let us hope there is some remedial measure we can take, monitor brake fluid levels for example to enable us to continue to enjoy the idiosyncrasies of Morgan ownership without the risk of brake failure added to them!

You would hope the dealer could give those affected a loan vehicle even if a trad to cover the gap, but I expect not.

Dealer feedback - it’s a leaking seal at fault - one car suffered brake loss with a few others having longer brake travel.
MMC considering solutions and to update CX owners asap.