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Seems that Morgan are not alone in having brake recall issues...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...ne-million-suv-models-over-braking-fault

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Originally Posted by +8Rich

What MMC does not need right now is more negativity being spread at this very difficult moment - just saying thumbs

Exactly that Rich! smile


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Originally Posted by Graham, G4FUJ
Originally Posted by +8Rich

What MMC does not need right now is more negativity being spread at this very difficult moment - just saying thumbs

Exactly that Rich! smile


Especially when it's not a negative story anyway. Potential problem with 3rd-party supplied component detected. Solution identified, cars quickly recalled for fix to be applied. Sounds to me like a big pat on the back for MMC is needed here, rather than any slagging off.


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I think its time that those of us who are experienced in the rebuild and repair of Morgan cars especially rebuilt braking systems could offer our services to get MMC and our MSCC owners out of this issue, perhaps a number of us could work nights at the dealers to get the cars fixed for our members.
These times are when MMC and our dealers need us more than ever.


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Originally Posted by +8Rich
Well if they have instructed you NOT to drive it MMC is duty bound to trailer it to the factory or more likely your local dealer will pick it up to complete the work.
God help anyone currently on tour then...

We were on a Hopmog event when one of our members got the message. He tried to arrange for the AA to trailer it home, but was told "it's not a breakdown". He ended up having to pay to get it back. Will MMC pay for that............


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Very unfortunate set of circumstances for all involved especially at this time of year. I wish everyone well and the problem is permanently fixed as quickly and as painlessly (inconvenience) for all concerned.

Personally I wouldn't drive a car when the manufacturer has advised not to drive, besides the potential legal issues, insurance questions etc. I wouldn't put myself, my family and others at risk especially when you know it is a brake related issue that may lead to total failure.


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Originally Posted by BuyBritish
I think its time that those of us who are experienced in the rebuild and repair of Morgan cars especially rebuilt braking systems could offer our services to get MMC and our MSCC owners out of this issue, perhaps a number of us could work nights at the dealers to get the cars fixed for our members.
These times are when MMC and our dealers need us more than ever.


As much as the sentiment is admirable and should be applauded, I think that would be an absolute nightmare for the dealers. Also if I was a CX owner, I would want the work completed by an formally acredited and certificated brake specialist.

Personally, as much as I'm happy to replace lines, slaves, master etc on my Trad, the canbus/ECU/black box fitted modern cars would be a bridge too far. Peter's recent experience with his brake lights show the complexity of these systems and what can go wrong.


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Originally Posted by Hamwich
Especially when it's not a negative story anyway. Potential problem with 3rd-party supplied component detected. Solution identified, cars quickly recalled for fix to be applied. Sounds to me like a big pat on the back for MMC is needed here, rather than any slagging off.

My feeling exactly, it's a safety recall dealt with through the prescribed process, it happens all the time. The Mercedes recall referenced earlier is just as serious, if not more so. My son's Honda Accord currently has a recall that warns him of the possibility of "serious injury or death" until he gets it fixed.

I appreciate the concern of CX owners but I think there is a danger of getting this news a little out of proportion.


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Under a recall there is an implied necessity for the work to be done by a certified dealer. This covers any future issues that might arise. It MIGHT be possible for specialist garages to do the work so the now ex dealers might be included to increase options for remedial work. Basically, will it might be acceptable for selected independent garages to help. We know that there are several excellent such places.
Will MMC go down that route? The indie garages might welcome the extra work.
This is not a job for “enthusiastic amateurs” as the recall sets a legal hurdle.
I’ve replaced callipers on my trad ( found the new calliper mounting point holes too small! Manufacturer error). The supplier found his stock affected too. The fix was straight forward, basically reaming out.
I have had a seized calliper and replaced seals, one of the originals was at fault, deteriorated surface. OK after that.
Car checked on a brake test rolling road. What makes newer cars more complex to do is the inter-linked systems that are monitored by the car. ABS, pressure detecting systems etc.
Even my 2002 Plus8 has an oil pressure sensor that is linked to the ecu. A separate second one for the gauge as well that I had to change.

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I suspect the financial pain for this will fall on their component supplier.
I was going to test drive a PlusSix on Saturday, no longer.


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