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I've used a simple wooden frame, a similar principle to Harry above, for over 40 years.
One length fits across and under the car. At each end us dovetailed a vertical length of wood with holes drilled for various wheel diameters.
Pretty much the same approach for me, except I use a length of shelf racking and a couple of brackets instead of wood.
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I've used a simple wooden frame, a similar principle to Harry above, for over 40 years.
One length fits across and under the car. At each end us dovetailed a vertical length of wood with holes drilled for various wheel diameters.
Initially I used two five inch nails, but one works well enough.
So first, I place the frame in front of the wheels, and adjust the nail so that it just touches the rim (3 o'clock nearside in this example).
Next, I measure, using a metal tape, the gap between the frame on the offside, and the wheel rim at 9 o'clock.
Repeat with the frame behind the wheels. Compare the measurements. For toe in, the front measurement needs to be more than the rear, by the amount of toe in. Because I measure from the outside.
I've never had a problem using this method. Would love to see a picture of this in action Dave 😁
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I've used a simple wooden frame, a similar principle to Harry above, for over 40 years.
One length fits across and under the car. At each end us dovetailed a vertical length of wood with holes drilled for various wheel diameters.
Initially I used two five inch nails, but one works well enough.
So first, I place the frame in front of the wheels, and adjust the nail so that it just touches the rim (3 o'clock nearside in this example).
Next, I measure, using a metal tape, the gap between the frame on the offside, and the wheel rim at 9 o'clock.
Repeat with the frame behind the wheels. Compare the measurements. For toe in, the front measurement needs to be more than the rear, by the amount of toe in. Because I measure from the outside.
I've never had a problem using this method. Would love to see a picture of this in action Dave 😁 Might take a day or two but I don't see why not........
DaveW
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I've used a simple wooden frame, a similar principle to Harry above, for over 40 years.
One length fits across and under the car. At each end us dovetailed a vertical length of wood with holes drilled for various wheel diameters.
Initially I used two five inch nails, but one works well enough.
So first, I place the frame in front of the wheels, and adjust the nail so that it just touches the rim (3 o'clock nearside in this example).
Next, I measure, using a metal tape, the gap between the frame on the offside, and the wheel rim at 9 o'clock.
Repeat with the frame behind the wheels. Compare the measurements. For toe in, the front measurement needs to be more than the rear, by the amount of toe in. Because I measure from the outside.
I've never had a problem using this method. Would love to see a picture of this in action Dave 😁 Might take a day or two but I don't see why not........ Thanks Dave, think a few on here would benefit from seeing the set up. I'm busy doing a bit of pre mot prep by fettling with my brake reaction stays to stop the rubbing on full lock 😩
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Only slightly off topic discovered offside TRE body at an angle rather than horizontal. Imagine this happened when tracking was adjusted. This had left the dust cover a little scrunched up on the forward side and worse it appeared to be cracked! After correcting TRE angle ordered a small generic set of covers claimed to fit +8 but which turned out to be too small, so very carefully removed old one keeping the spring clips serviceable. On closer inspection the rubber boot was in pristine condition and I'd been fooled by cracked underseal  Cleaned out old grease, re-packed and after a bit of fiddling got the lower larger securing circlip on dust cover. Top one was easy. Then secured taper with fresh nylock nut. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/AmOwzSM.jpeg) Note the factory original ⅜" UNF nylock was not particularly tight and my taper buster tool had little work to do. Torqued both sides to just over 30 lbft which added about an eighth of a turn to other side!
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Ok, here it is and it's not pretty! I had to replace the main timber when my cars got wider............ This is the nail which creates the baseline, just touching the rim. It's not quite at 3 o'clock because wheels have got a lot bigger, but it's close enough. So first measure here, then slide the frame behind the wheel and repeat. It really does work. Assuming the wheels run concentric! ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2022/06/17/P1060183.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2022/06/17/P1060184.jpg) The other side I just use a metal tape, a rule would do the same thing. I work generally to 1/16" or up to 2mm. The measurement at the front should be bigger because I measure from the outside. ![[Linked Image]](https://tm-img.com/images/2022/06/17/P1060185.jpg)
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Ok, here it is and it's not pretty! I had to replace the main timber when my cars got wider............ This is the nail which creates the baseline, just touching the rim. It's not quite at 3 o'clock because wheels have got a lot bigger, but it's close enough. So first measure here, then slide the frame behind the wheel and repeat. It really does work. Assuming the wheels run concentric! The other side I just use a metal tape, a rule would do the same thing. I work generally to 1/16" or up to 2mm. The measurement at the front should be bigger because I measure from the outside. Thanks Dave, I see a project coming on 😁
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Nice one Dave. The only real variation in the approach I use is that I use a pair of tyre chocks against the wheels to rest the cross bar up against so I can be sure the bar is equidistant from the wheels and square across the car.
Tim H.
1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
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