Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Morgan Plus Four, Supersport & Plus Six (CX & CXV Generation Vehicles) Safety Recall - Brakes

Logically if the issue is a design issue then all CX vehicles should have the latest radiator fix. Some cars failures may be due to milage driven and/or driving conditions and/or driving technique. Just because a vehicle has suffered multiple radiator failures in a relative small period of time does not mean that the ones that ( so far ) have not experienced failure will not do so in the future when they are out of warranty.. hence my original question are all CX cars going to have the swirl pot and if not why?.

In New Zealand we have four Plus Sixes all made in the first 60 odd cars in the later part of 2019. All have experienced a loss of ride height. The lowest point is under the muffler where we have between 80 to 90 mm ground clearance on a flat surface in an unloaded state. In minimum clearance for all road vehicles in NZ is 100mm. All are going to be fitted, at owners expense, with SSL coil over damper units as soon as they arrive in NZ.

It would be interesting to know just how widespread this problem is - maybe the road surfaces in NZ are harder on suspensions than in the UK? Maybe the time to measure your Plus Six's clearance!

The Plus Four suspension appears to be different and fine. In fact SSL have said that they are happy with it and may not be able to improve on it.

Engineering hat on again.. If early Plus 6 cars are starting to show ride height reduction, then the issue is the spring. The SSL replacement modification ( I believe) changes both damper and spring in the coil over unit. and a modification to the front roll bar.

To add more to the matter of the loss of ride height on our Plus Six of even more concern was teh following information from a reputable source

"One issue with the PlusSix, is that the springs, which are good quality, are made to competition principles.
By that I would consider the designs to be inadequately durable for road car use. Put simply they will collapse in service over time."
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Hence not wanting to either have more damage to the underside of the car, and more worrying to have the suspension collapse with devastating results (maybe worse than loss of brakes) we are replacing teh units with SSL coil over damper units. Peace of mind at least!

Radiators, brakes, now the springs??

I think, with all this news, many trad drivers who have toyed with the idea of ​​getting a CX are very glad they refrained from doing so.

Of course, I wish all CX drivers that they soon only have to worry about enjoyable rides.

Don’t forget the “lower wishbone nut has been found under-spec'd so that's due for replacement as well”.

That's not what new or potential owners want to hear. You must have been very disappointed.

According to the post by Adrian7777, and I think others, it is a flaw of the plus 6 which has been identified and well known to Morgan and its dealers

Forgive me for asking, but if the suspension fails so quickly on your new car
Why are you or anyone else considering paying for the fix when the vehicle is not fit for purpose and becomes non compliant so fast ?

This sounds like the very problem we had in Australia with a string of trads in 2011
Our Federal authorities were very quick to force Morgan to sort that out at NO cost to owners.

May be that explains another post that these vehicles are being offer in the market at a significant discount

I think you make a very fair point which had me questioning myself.
I was an early buyer of a CX Plus Four, taking delivery in July 2020. After a few months of driving, I felt that the car could be improved in a few areas. 1. The exhaust could sound more sporty: I was told by my dealer that the new sports exhaust wasn’t that good and I may be better waiting until the car was out of warranty and then sourcing my own in the market. If I fitted one that wasn’t from Morgan it would invalidate the warranty. Since then, I understand Morgan have introduced a switchable sports exhaust option.
2. The seats were poor and I had them re-done which made then FAR better. Since then Morgan have introduced the comfort seat.
3. The suspension I felt was too hard and bouncy, which I felt caused unnecessary road holding problems when coming into a bend at speed on a less than smooth surface. When I saw the SSL suspension upgrade for the Plus Six advertised I asked my dealer about it. It appears that the factory improved the suspension for the introduction of the Plus Four and SSL said they couldn’t improve it.
4. The hood was ridiculously difficult to operate. This has since been rectified by my dealer as it was too tight. Since then I understand Morgan have introduced a better hood.
5. The brakes squealed to an embarrassing level. I was told all Plus Fours did. The fix was to reverse them so they only squealed in reverse.

As many on here have pointed out, early buyers have effectively been used as beta testers. You raise a fair point as to why we would be prepared to pay to fix these issues ourselves. I think the answer is that of course we shouldn’t but we do because the car is our pride and joy. For many the fulfilment of a life long dream. We want it to be the best it can be. We want to love it to the extent we are / were prepared to look beyond its flaws. In fact, the flaws were part of the experience. However, not being able to drive the car is a flaw too far and it has now soured the experience.
Sad to say I have SORNED mine today. A 2 year old £70k+ sports car in the middle of the best summer in a generation. Something I can’t quite believe. Neither can I believe I was prepared to spend so much money on it now, as sad to say, the brake debacle has certainly tainted the whole experience for me.

Sorry to hear this news Adrian
I think it is a sad for you and a sad experience for all CX owners....