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As to the question of how many young drivers are up for the Morgan experience, I have two thoughts. First, Morgan doesn’t make many cars, so there don’t need to be too many of us. Second, I know the cry of the older generations is “youth these days…” often accompanied by an eye roll and a story of the hardships of yesteryear, but in my anecdotal experience, a lot of us “snowflakes” are pulling up the carpets and returning to hard wood floors (I mean this figuratively and literally). My parents generation, indeed my grandparents generation has over seen one of the greatest periods of peace filled economic growth in history. Perhaps we’re all a little “softer” than we may admit.
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Peter, you are not any longer 34, for you the positive points Dale makes are already inhaled. So the Plus Four or Six would be like your Plus 8 but minus the excitement and character of your engine? so, a tad closer to the Boxter than yours? On the other hand offering a perhaps even better suspension and a more relaxed drive? This is in no way a criticism against the CX cars, only my thoughts about the expectations we more experienced driver could have.
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DPF, I am definitely much softer in my dotage, to the extent that I can not enjoy my old Morgan as once I did...Soft I may be but perhaps more tuned into the possible realities ahead than some of the young, reading it in history books is perhaps not quite the same as living through it.
As for the old VS young, I remember reading words of criticism of the young that was supposedly attributed to Plato, so it is nothing new... Human nature it never seems to change.. (-:
In terms of the future, seems perhaps best to enjoy that which you have while you have it, Morgans included..?
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Peter, you are not any longer 34, for you the positive points Dale makes are already inhaled. So the Plus Four or Six would be like your Plus 8 but minus the excitement and character of your engine? so, a tad closer to the Boxter than yours? On the other hand offering a perhaps even better suspension and a more relaxed drive? This is in no way a criticism against the CX cars, only my thoughts about the expectations we more experienced driver could have. Heinz, if I can find a solution to the suspension of my Roadster particularly the front suspension to make it more smooth and compliant, it would be without question my favourite Morgan. Probably because I'm jumping in and out of a modern convertible into the Morgan, I become increasingly more aware of its foibles and failings. If I can get that bit sorted, its a great car, even though it only has six cylinders.
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Luddite,
I was a bit unfair and being a little bit contentious when responding to your Fiat: Ferrari reference. There is something about Morgans that does get under your skin, a definite itch that has to be scratched, Can't explain it, sometimes it defies all logic and reason maybe it encapsulates the sense of being alive, standing out from the crowd, being slightly individual or even a slightly masochistic streak, when it comes to the pleasure and pain of ownership.
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John, can the driving experience also have something to do with the weight of the engine and the tyre size? A narrow 165/80/15 has a noticeable suspension bounce. When the chassis was designed the cars were even lighter than a 4/4 today. I see in your template that you have had three 4/4s and now the second Roadster. I have had three roadsters, a Plus 4 SS and now for eight years the first 4/4. I am perfectly happy with the way my 4/4 drives, but for me it is always a wild ride in the countryside when possible, far from modern. That's why it never occurs to me to compare my 4/4 with anything modern. And we take a trip to Italy or Austria every year with the car, which works well.
But I must add an observation. During 2020 and 2021 in the Covid period, we drove much less than usual. This year we went to Italy in May, after a long standstill. I have to admit that the second day of the trip from Munich to Italy was fantastic. But the first day from Cologne to Munich took a lot of getting used to. On the first day I noticed the shaking, rattling, bumping and jolting much more than normal, on the verge of annoying disturbance. On the second day I was...after the longer break, at one with the 4/4 again.
Sorry for the thread drift which had arisen from the topic that I am actually an advocate of the CX for the new generation and also for anyone of any age who likes it.
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As to the question of how many young drivers are up for the Morgan experience, I have two thoughts. First, Morgan doesn’t make many cars, so there don’t need to be too many of us. Second, I know the cry of the older generations is “youth these days…” often accompanied by an eye roll and a story of the hardships of yesteryear, but in my anecdotal experience, a lot of us “snowflakes” are pulling up the carpets and returning to hard wood floors (I mean this figuratively and literally). My parents generation, indeed my grandparents generation has over seen one of the greatest periods of peace filled economic growth in history. Perhaps we’re all a little “softer” than we may admit. Yep we are all softer these days, putting down fitted carpets for my generation was more a question of when could you afford it, and wooden floorboards are bloody cold and draughty in winter in the days before central heating. I certainly don't hanker after those days before modern conveniences like dishwashers......and I was never into the 'chewing' of coal as a recreational past time.
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gaston, glad you have her back. BTW Garage Albert looks so tasteful to represent the Morgan theme.
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