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Many thanks for sharing further insight to your personal vehicular ideals which have the potential to increase a degree of understanding relative to your thinking John. As ever relativity would seem to play a large part in the creation of personal ideals..?
As I have typed it took the equivalent of five years of savings to buy my Morgan, which equates to some degree of financial sacrifice and thus some measure of emotional involvement from the outset, which was added to over the years in terms of adventures enjoyed and memories created.. My +8 was the first sports car I had bought which was in concours condition at the time of purchase, as previous to that and over many decades my sports cars were bought in need of work, some needing as much as a year or so of my time spent in my rather cold and oft times damp garage to bring them back to usable condition, thus by the time they were road ready there had been considerable amounts of emotional involvement with them..from expressing expletives in pain or frustration to expressing expletives with a different tone at the sense of enjoyment on finally being able to drive it down the road.(-:
I suspect perhaps only those who have brought old cars back to life or finally managed to effect a long running repair process, may understand fully the degree of emotions possible as the result of involvement in such processes..? My Concours Morgan purchase was very different from all that went on before, likewise the purchase of my 991 just over a year ago....Quite a bit more savings went into the purchase of the 991, and as you might expect, the difference in performance expectations between it and the +8 differ considerably. As for the emotional connection comparison, it` kinda hard to evaluate as there are so many different levels to contemplate. However if one might determine that function over form would be the primary criteria for judgement, then the 991 would win as it better fits my transport needs at this moment in time, whereas when younger it was the move away from 911 and into Morgan ownership that more suited my needs and desires of more driver involvement at road legal speeds at that period of time , thus it seems priorities can evolve as can some degree of emotional involvement...?
Apologies for the usual thread drift I understand exactly where you are coming from, especially when you have invested so much of yourself into a given thing, be it a car, boat, house or whatever. I'm built slightly differently, for me life's too short and I'd rather cut my losses on any given thing and move on if its not delivering what I expect/hope it would. Sometimes one can settle for less, but with finite garage facilities and living in a very corrosive coastal environment, I tend to find if you don't use it, you quickly lose it to the salty environment, no matter what precautions you take. For years I used to buy a new Harley in the spring and sell it in the autumn as keeping it over winter you could see the cheap chrome plating disappearing before your very eyes. Harleys I did keep for many years eg my Grey Ghost Fatboy, Springer and Dynaglide no matter what you did, you would see the alloy's discolour, welds on frame start to corrode etc....just a fact of life.
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I haven't been on here in a while as I sold my last Morgan Aero 8 in 2020 and bought a Porsche 718 Spyder.
I am currently in the market for a new "toy" and I was considering getting another Aero 8. I previously had an S3 and an S5. I still look at the cars and to my eye they are simply beautiful. Drive wise they are no match for the Spyder but looks wise, they beat it imho.
My last S5 I had from new and in the first year I had it, it spent 6 months back at the factory. Thereafter, for the next four years, it was back and forth the factory like a yo yo with long periods without it trying to resolve various issues, some of which were never resolved from collection to me selling it (i.e. the drivers side window constantly slipped causing a gap, a loud noise in the ear when driving and water ingress when it rained.). The S5 simply tarnished my feelings towards Morgan hence the reason I sold it.
However, I always loved the rear of the S3 compared to the S5 - the S5 bulbous rear always reminded me of a spiders abdomen!!! The S3 rear continued the feeling of motion you get looking at the sweeping front wings down over the running boards, then the sweeping rear wing and sweeping rear light moulding, not to mention the swoop and scoop of the boot lid ducktail. So it is the S3 I was considering (or S4). Given that they are now 15 years old though I had concerns over parts availability, service, and ageing issues.
Reading this forum has not only reminded me of the heartache I had with my last Aero, it has confirmed what I feared - the factory may not be able to source parts and in some cases service has not been great. All those anxiety issues I had with my last Aero came flooding back as a much needed reminder. Thanks all for sharing and being so open. As someone said earlier on this thread in relation to their Max, the beauty belied the driving experience - that was certainly true in my case. Think I'm going to go buy a production car instead - I understand the emotional attachment mind people talk about on this thread - watching my S5 drive away when I sold it was like a relationship break up for days after. Just like a relationship break up though.....I'm back looking again remembering on the good bits. I needed the reality check reading the forum.
Thanks Morganeers - Happy days :-)
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just get the best looking Aero and buy an S1 Rob  - live dangerously.....  James
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I have a Plus 4 and a 1970 Elan. A mate with an Elan summed up the owning of such a car as “it’s more addictive than any narcotic” and that’s just the problem of owning either car. And probably applies to any Lotus or Morgan. Cheers John
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Take your pic John07, there are plenty of interesting machines out there to suit all types of enthusiasts, I have been fortunate to sample a few myself, the sixties Elan was the first car I really lusted after.. Which kinda takes us back to the subject of emotional involvement betwixt man and machine and that some of us for a variety of different reasons can become more emotionally involved with our machines than others who can replace them with the next new thing matters not a jot, whatever floats one`s boat works well enough for me.
Currently feeling rather spoiled to have two metal mistresses sitting in my garage, both of which I have a variety of emotional ties to... Though it did take numerous decades to arrive at such a fortunate situation, how long that might last...who knows.. But I intend to enjoy it while I can.
As the other John typed in this thread, life can be thought to be too short on occasion..
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Aeromax for sale on the Collecting Car Auction Site.
Currently at £70k with 6 days to go. Just sold for £142k + £6k fees
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Sounds like a bit of a bargain given that Williams has a virtually identical manual version for £250k with similar mileage!!
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I didn't follow the live bidding, but there were a couple of traders showing interest early on. The car had been back to the factory for several £000's work, so you'd think it is low risk. There's a profit margin between that auction price and the aspirational retail prices at Morgan & Williams - so I'd not be surprised to see it pop up on a forecourt.
Or someone got a bargain!
Formerly Aero S5 #80 Currently 911 (992) Targa in python green
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