Talk Morgan Forums Morgan Sports Cars Morgan Three Wheeler & Super 3 The Super 3

Definitely an industry std. agree re VW. My dribble bus is shocking on the suspension.

Also Astons suffer with the rear suspension cages rotting very badly

I would be surprised if a “breakdown” recovery policy covered a poor paint job…but if it does, then I stand corrected.

Dead chuffed I imagine! If MMC still has paying customers why do any better?


On this front MCC is on target!


If MMC has convinced themselves that this excuse is true, then there is no reason to even try to be better.



Through my years of posting here, after going through my own M3W ownership experience, I've tried to show what MMC could do if they wanted to (like a burnished surface w/chamfered edge Centa Journal that does not leak oil or chew rear main-seals) or maybe what quality owners or potential buyers could/should expect.

I had always hoped that under the new Italian ownership MMC would build something as brilliant as my MINI R53, that was built after BMW bought that brand.

Alas, it seems like little at MMC has changed. If buyers continue to accept the old 'they all do that', then nothing will change, and there is no incentive to improve to what could be done, and what others already do.

I’m not saying that “industry standard” makes it ok. It certainly doesn’t, especially when the components are there to see and form part of the look

I found the exhaust hanger that you mention must be replaced on newer cars. I’ll have to get that coated as well when I get round to the front assembly. Also the brake drum looks like it was found at the bottom of the sea. I might have a go at painting it with black caliper paint as that’s going to annoy me every time I see it.
Fun fact. When I asked the dealer how you open up the rear hatch he told me I can’t, it’s only to be opened in the workshop. 🤷‍♂️ It’s caked in mud in there only after 500 miles, I’m sure owners are expected to get in there to clean it?

One of the early M3W 5sp owner-fixes / later options was a mudguard over the rear wheel. Did Morgan forget that lesson learned on the Super 3?

One of the Super 3’s at the launch did have a mudguard over the rear wheel.

To open the rear hatch there is a lever at the top middle of the seat back rest, the boot liner can be removed by undoing a couple of thumb screws.

Agreed, these issues should very much not be OK. It does seem that MMC deemed it OK to deliver these problems to paying customers though.

Nope, not ‘industry standard’, but I understand why the devout attempt such spin. The fact that every automotive marquee has had their problems, those exceptions do not make any of it ‘industry standard’.

Again, I really wanted MMC to build something brilliant, and anyone reading here sees past stories repeating, so caveat emptor all, and I really do hope everyone makes the best choice for themselves.

Now I’ll raise the SEP Field

Here are the welding on two super3 made with only one month appart.

Completely agree with 3Gs and will go further. Morgan get away with it because its end users (the retail customer) have allowed them. Even new Super 3 buyers are asking for advice or attempting to fix issues with recently delivered product. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

Morgan want and need to entice a new, younger buyer. These buyers will fall outside of the baby boomer, make do and mend generation.
How long will the Morgan "some will, some won`t, who cares, who`s next attitude serve them?

An attitude reinforced by the Morgan Works General Manager.I was asked via an email if i had come to a decision re the Super 3. To which i politely replied that due to quality concerns expressed on here, i would be keeping the wallet closed for now. Despite being a Works customer of just 13 months, no attempt was made to placate my concerns and no further email has been received.

Nobody wants to pee on anyone's parade here. We surely all want it to succeed, especially those with new models purchased, on order or those (myself included) who have spent months agonising over specs and attempting to silence the screaming voice in my head.

I am reminded of some words from a very well known and respected multiple Morgan owner (who will speak in private but dare not offend anyone at Morgan) who said re Morgan new model ownership. "If you can`t see the hills it`s raining and if you can see them, it`s about to start" Even the Ostrich with the longest neck can surely get that message.

If Morgan do not learn from their customers, they most definitely will not learn from themselves.