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Greetings! I am in the states and considering ordering a 2023 Plus4. I had a 2019 and it was incredibly stiff and bumpy to the point where I sold it (yes I know the cars aren’t meant to feel luxurious, but it was excessive). Obviously the new 2023 has different brakes, electronic stability system, anti skid system, different interiors, different dash, steering wheel, center console, BMW suspension etc.

I am looking for real world feedback on the ride quality of the 2023 versus previous older years such as the 2019. Is the ride quality significantly improved? Thank you so much!

Also, please don’t tell me to buy a Porsche or BMW if I don’t like the ride. Looking for genuine feedback 🙌🏻

Hi Trev,

Please note that the suspension isn't BMW.

While not an owner of a CX, I have driven them quite a bit and can say the car as a whole drives extremely well. Soaks up the bumps, chassis feels very stiff in a good way etc. Is it `BMW / Porsche level? Far from. Is it a leap forward from the Trads? Yes.

I'm sure others who are owners will be along shortly. Due to the cost of the car, perhaps wait for a demo to arrive before committing.

Good luck
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At my dealer they call the new plus four "the flying carpet" . I have had three morgan before the plus four. This one is almost a modern car , the brakes problem has been solved and the radiator doesnt leak (untill now) . It is one of the first car built in 2020 and the fifth car in Belgium. I have the auto box , in Drive you stay always at 1200 rd/min . You can cruise in 8th without problems.
In sport mode the car is terrific, you stay in s mode or play with the "palettes" at the wheel. In sport plus it can be dangerous , the car accelerate like a bmw m3. As i am not a race pilot i am very carefull
on wet ground , my car doenst have anti slip system. But the she can be drived sportively , i have made a cursus to control the car on the wet and the instructor showed me what was possible with the car.
The small race track was done in drift . You say that you find the trad suspension to hard , but it was one of the character of the trad , the plus four is not so special. It is a question of taste.

Hi Trev, Not wishing to be pedantic, but the trad models were “Plus 4“ and the newer CX range are “Plus Four”. I only offer this as if you are trying to compare notes with others in the future, it’s obviously important that we are all singing from the same hymn sheet.
Personally, with the number of serious issues that have arisen with the CX range together with the price, has convinced me to stay with my trad plus4.

Welcome Trev. I must say I never drove a CX model but nevertheless my thoughts.
One Q. have you experienced any other Trad Morgan before your 2019 CX model? Just curious if you can compare the ride of the CX series with any older Morgan model because what for most former Trad owners seems to be a significant addition regarding the comfort plus of a CX model could be a step down for you when you come from more regular modern sports cars.
I am not sure if the suspension, or changes of it, are the only possible reason why the feel of comfort could have bettered during the built years. When I recall it right the many times noted improvement of the seats were a significant point to enhance the comfort like many posts will state in this forum section.

Hi Trev
I was fortunate in 2020 to have both a 2018 Plus4 (automatic) and a new 2020 Plus Six. We loved the Plus 4 - the automatic box made it a very sleek car to drive, however when the Plus Six was announced I went and ordered one of the 50 launch models. Hence I had for short time both the Plus4 and the Plus Six.
With the Plus 4 after driving more than100 miles my arms and whole body was well shaken such is the nature of the traditional sliding pillar suspension that you have experienced.
With the Plus Six and Plus Four you have double wishbone suspension and a TOTALLY different car to drive. After my first drive I declared that this was certainly not the Morgan I had experienced in three previous cars. The car in comparison to my other Morgans .is a dream to drive. I can drive for say 300 miles and get out of the car in great shape. And since replacing the suspension units a great handling car.

By the time MMC produced the Plus Four they had sorted out all the suspension such that most experts say it cannot or does not need any changes. If I was in the market for another Morgan the M23 Plus Four would be the only car I would consider!
Kerry

Hi Trev,
welcome to TM from another newbie !
I assume that you drove a Plus 4 from 2019 ("Trad") with the original traditional steel frame before, correct?
The "new" Plus Four is built since mid of 2020 with the CX chassis and has a total different handling than the older ones (as also described before).
I deliberately decided to buy a CX platform Plus Four (my one is from 2021) as I wanted "some kind of suspension" ... Coming from a Porsche Boxster (981) I am pretty happy with the handling and chassis comfort of my Plus Four.
The MY2023 "Plus Series" got now further improvements on the chassis and brakes and has now also electronic stability system which my one does not have yet.
As the new cars were just introduced I assume that not many people here on TM (probably no one) could tell you how the handling changed from the former Plus Four (CX).

Best for you would be probably to utilize the "strong dollar" and fly to Malvern in spring to drive a new MY23 Plus Four as part of the Morgan Experience and get a real feeling, if the ordering of this new car would fit to you .

Good luck!

All I can say is that, having owned a 2007 Plus 4 and now a 2021 Plus Four, they are like chalk & cheese. The Plus Four has its faults, but is light years better than the old model. So it should be for the price.

I had a 2011 Plus 4 with SSL suspension upgrades to front and rear. I found it comfortable for several hours driving in a day. I have had a test drive in an early Plus Four, and I think it was even more comfortable.

Hi Trev,
going to Malvern gives you also the chance to the see the "must see" factory
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