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I had a remote greasing kit fitted to my Morgan +4 last month. It was a very neat job done by Brands Hatch Morgan. Unbelievably, I've done over 800 miles since it was fitted, so I decided to grease the King Pins for the first time.
Using a good quality Wanner grease gun, with the brake discs suitably protected, I started the process. I managed to get two shots into the N/S/F, but none into the O/S/F. All excess grease emanated from around the “input end” on the nipple. Not what I was expecting! From the forum, I had expected to hear a pop of grease from around the suspension, and wipe away any excess internally.
At the time of fitting, I checked my grease gun with the garage, I have the correct size, it attaches to the Red/Blue remote nipples correctly. Seems to be a good tight fit.
As a complete newbie to this, I'm now wondering if I’ve over greased?
Does anyone have any thoughts before I contact the garage on Tuesday?
Last edited by Stephen Beckett; 28/05/23 06:54 AM.
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No such thing as a stupid question! Only stupid answers 🤣 Sometimes the gun doesn't attach straight onto the nipple, try rotating and or adjusting the angle of engagement a little, that might work if there is no damage to the gun or nipple.
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I don't use a remote kit, but if I don't get my wanner attached at exactly the right angle, I get a lot of overspill around the nipple and none out at the right place.
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I suspect also the angle of attack.
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Brands Hatch Morgan would have definitely loaded the extension tubes with grease and checked the function so that rules out a faulty nipple! location of the gun attachment would be my thoughts too. If that fails reinstall a nipple at the problem site and try a direct approach there also check the patency of the tube in question when disconnected!
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I don't have the remote greasing kit fitted but it took me ages to learn, by trial and error, how to get use the grease gun properly and in particular not to overgrease. With hindsight I should probably have taken it to my friendly Morgan servicer and got them to take me through it all.
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Stupid Question Warning! Reader patience required. ___________________________________________________________________________________
I had a remote greasing kit fitted to my Morgan +4 last month. It was a very neat job done by Brands Hatch Morgan. Unbelievably, I've done over 800 miles since it was fitted, so I decided to grease the King Pins for the first time.
Using a good quality Wanner grease gun, with the brake discs suitably protected, I started the process. I managed to get two shots into the N/S/F, but none into the O/S/F. All excess grease emanated from around the “input end” on the nipple. Not what I was expecting! From the forum, I had expected to hear a pop of grease from around the suspension, and wipe away any excess internally.
At the time of fitting, I checked my grease gun with the garage, I have the correct size, it attaches to the Red/Blue remote nipples correctly. Seems to be a good tight fit.
As a complete newbie to this, I'm now wondering if I’ve over greased?
Does anyone have any thoughts before I contact the garage on Tuesday? What you describe Stephen is the grease gun head not locking fully onto grease nipple. Unless this is done with a firm push whilst holding the head square onto nipple you will get little or no grease into lines since it will escape from the sides. Once correctly locked on you will not be able to remove gun with straight pulling action. A twisting action whilst holding gun head at max angle to nipple will be required to unattach. Note also as kingpin/bushes wear more grease needs to be squirted in before old grease can be seen to escape from stub axles. I'm up to 12 squirts on each of four nipples from average size gun every 800 - 1000 miles. This is why I prefer not to use remote greasing.
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I bought one of these and a flexible hose from Machine Mart. Once it's locked on no grease escapes around the nipple. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2023/05/28/Nipple-Coupler.png)
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Thanks to all above for your replies, I'm genuinely grateful for the hints and tips.
Having read your answers, I strongly suspect it's me, not seating the gun at the right angle. I had thought that once it clicks on, "job done", but angle of attack is a familiar term, and makes sense. I'll have another go tomorrow. The kit was well fitted by Brands Hatch, and I know it was fully greased when I collected it. I'm probably unduly concerned by the all the potholes I've encountered.
The car had new King Pins about 6000 miles ago, so possibly they are in good order and make a good seal. I did manage two shots with the N/S/F, so Im sure my engineering skills have potential. Oh, and the brakes still work which is a bonus.
Regards to all.
Last edited by Stephen Beckett; 28/05/23 11:19 AM.
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There is definitely a knack to getting the connection right but on a remote system it should be a bit easier. The best advice I received when new to the game was to push a needle into the hole on the nipple before attaching the grease gun. It made a big difference to leakage for me.(just poke with a needle, don't leave the needle there of course; you're just ensuring the ball bearing isn't stuck) Nick
Last edited by nick w; 28/05/23 05:07 PM.
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