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#776258 01/05/23 07:37 PM
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My 2011 car is fit and well again after long awaited surgery to remove a failing dash pcb. Sorting the infamous pcb has been on my ‘to do’ list ever since the rear fog light decided to permanently stay on just before its MOT. When this multi-function item starts to play up the options are stark. When I enquired about a replacement about a year ago I was told they did still have some but £754 + vat. Also I believe the original manufacture Zonefollow now no longer exists. So the perfect excuse to attempt its removal and replace it with something a little more, ‘low tech’ and ‘future proof’.


The results so far. From the outside there’s only subtle changes. The vending machine switches have gone but still looking mostly original.
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However from the inside it’s a little different. This is all that I removed.
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And this is my new ‘plug and play’ replacement kit.
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There were many way this could have been tackled. I’m sure the elec experts might have done it a little slicker. Meddling with electrickery is not really my thing but sometimes it’s fun to have a go… smile



My new switch assembly bolts to the back of the dash. The original 12 way Dashboard connector on the Chassis Harness that previously plugged into the pcb now connects here. I’ve also used a similar series 9 way connector to run off to my remote relay assembly. I’m using a heavy duty rotary switch to controls the blower motor and one of it’s low speed resistors, so two less relays. Also one less relay for the heated screen as the toggles can handle the load.
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The remote relay assembly contains the remaining relays and the flasher unit. (I’ve added a spot relay too for a future project).The relays are all of a similar type as used everywhere else on the car and the flasher is a regular 3 pin Defender unit. It makes a nice loud click when flashing so hopefully won’t need a bleep thingy (which I forgot anyway frown ).
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I wanted to keep the original factory Warning Light PCB as it’s quite elegant and the surface mount LED’s will be perfectly serviceable in the future. The down side with this is that the warning LED’s current limiting resistors have to be located somewhere so I incorporated them into a little interface cable. The cable connects the car’s original 15 way female Dashboard Sub Harness connector directly to the male 12 way header on the Warning Light pcb. The male header I’ve attached to a bit of Vero board, popped on the resistors and wacked it into a little printed housing.
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I did have to knock up some stainless bodge bezels to hide the huge Ø23mm holes left over in the dash panel for mounting the previous switches. The toggles only need small Ø12mm holes and I didn’t want to remake the panel.
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And the final rat's nest all stitched together. At least I can now easily fix things should anything conks out. There’s quite a bit packed in but not a problem as I can now remove the dash in about 3 minutes flat.
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After a 30 mile trip in the sun today it’s all still working. So far so good. Fingers crossed from here on nothing falls apart. The bottom line is that I can quickly plug the old pcb back if needed but now that it’s out I plan to attempt a repair in slow time.

What could possibly go wrong….. woohoo


Roger
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That's looking good Rog, well done. I'm still contemplating how I'm going to resolve the issue I have with the fan blowing the fuse on the high setting. My fix at the moment is to try and remember not to put the fan onto the highest setting 😁


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Superbly engineered job Rog thumbs

Did you leave behind any of the functionality (when working) of the OE PCB? I'm thinking spot and rear fog inhibits, two speed heater fan etc.


Richard

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Well done. That is way beyond my skill level


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Great work. A big improvement.


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It all looks very well thought out, lovingly done and very reliable. You should have made the original circuits for Morgan!


'14 4/4 graphite grey
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Again a great work! thumbs


2005 4/4 1800ccm Duratec and a lot of HONDA CX500.......
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Thanks chaps.

Originally Posted by Gordon D
That's looking good Rog, well done. I'm still contemplating how I'm going to resolve the issue I have with the fan blowing the fuse on the high setting. My fix at the moment is to try and remember not to put the fan onto the highest setting 😁

Gordon just a thought… Richard may be better able to answer this but on later cars I’ve noticed they’ve stuffed what appears to be a couple of fly back diodes in the back of the pcb connector on the blower high and low pins. Could a faulty diode cause your symptoms?

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PS - and I believe it’s a 15.1A rated motor with a 15A fuse.


Originally Posted by RichardV6
Superbly engineered job Rog thumbs

Did you leave behind any of the functionality (when working) of the OE PCB? I'm thinking spot and rear fog inhibits, two speed heater fan etc.

100% functionality Richard. Even my toggles light up smile
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Roger
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In that case thumbs thumbs Rog wink

Re Gordon's heater fan fuse issue, can't see diodes themselves being an issue unless they were used for current limiting. Will look further but little harm in trying the next highest rating 20 amp fuse.


Richard

2018 Roadster 3.7
1966 Land Rover S2a 88
2024 Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450
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Wow! These switches look so cool with their ilumination.


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